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    Re: Boehner lashes out at conservative groups on budget deal

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    He may well keep his seat, just not be speaker any more.
    Id be fine with that too. Frankly Ive never been thrilled with him, he's got a tough job, but he never blew me away.

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    Re: Boehner lashes out at conservative groups on budget deal

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    He may well keep his seat, just not be speaker any more.
    Probably would be a good move for both him and the party he no longer represents.

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    Re: Boehner lashes out at conservative groups on budget deal

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    Re: Boehner lashes out at conservative groups on budget deal

    The legislation passed overwhelmingly, both among Democrats and Republicans. The roll call vote can be found at:

    http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2013/roll640.xml

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    Re: Boehner lashes out at conservative groups on budget deal

    I'd say I was disappointed by this deal, but that would require me to be surprised. And frankly, the Republican Party is no longer capable of surprising me when it comes to betraying its supposed fiscally conservative ideals. The Republicans gave real, immediate spending increases in exchange for paper promises of spending cuts a decade down the road. Those cuts exist in the same realm as Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and the Tooth Fairy - the land of make believe. In exchange for this betrayal of fiscal conservatism, what did the Republicans get? A big fat pile of nothing. With negotiating skills like that, I'm betting Ryan, Boehner, and the rest of the GOP establishment pay sticker price for their cars.

    As for those saying it was a necessary evil in order to win the bigger fight of the upcoming elections, I ask is winning elections worth it if the cost is putting in people who make these kinds of "deals"? The end goal isn't simply to have a few more senators with an R next to their name. Or at least it shouldn't be. The goal should be to get a few more fiscally conservative senators in place, so we can start dealing with our spending problems.

    And I don't buy that 1) the Democrats would've forced a shutdown or 2) that if they had, the Republicans would've shouldered the brunt of the blame. The Democrats squawked and squawked about how terrible and devastating the last shutdown was. They would look like the dumbest hypocrites in the world if they forced a shutdown with the Republicans offering what the Democrats fought for in the last shutdown war - a "clean" status quo budget. Furthermore, I think the Democratic leadership honestly believed its cries of disaster at the shutdown. Their own beliefs in the importance of government would not allow them to shut it down over something so minor.

    As usual the GOP is far more concerned about getting elected than it is interested any sort of ideals like fiscal conservatism. And what is scary is, for such a cynical power hungry organization, they are HORRIBLE at making political calculations. They took a hardline stance in the last shutdown showdown with an impossible to win hand and now they fold in this showdown when they have virtually all the cards. I'd love to play poker with Boehner some day.
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    Re: Boehner lashes out at conservative groups on budget deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Republican leaders defended a modest budget deal that would maintain government operations through 2015 amid conservative opposition that could scuttle the legislation in the House.
    House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, lashed out at conservative advocacy groups that have encouraged GOP lawmakers to oppose a budget framework unveiled last night by Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., and Sen. Patty Murray, D-Wash.
    "They're using our members and they're using the American people for their own goals," an animated Boehner told reporters at the Capitol. "This is ridiculous." <snip>

    Boehner lashes out at conservative groups on budget deal - NBC Politics

    Methinks the GOP is headed for an implosion.
    These RINO's are no better than Obama and his submissive ilk...

    There is no difference between a RINO and a progressive - they both believe they're Gods gift to man - it's that "affunenza" disease.

    These ****ing sick rich clowns are responsible for every action in your life yet, patriots step up to the plate such as the Tea Party and the media is quick to do their best to destroy them, without reason or thought and on the pure basis of NOT questioning an elite progressive or RINO.....

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