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    Re: Boehner lashes out at conservative groups on budget deal

    Boehner doubles down. I was wondering when the GOP would take care of their "conservative" problems. Looks like they intend to get serious about the whackos that have been bastardizing the GOP brand.

    Is it possible that my old party of choice might be returning to it's "kinder, gentler," root's? Time will tell.


    House Speaker John Boehner is not sorry about his criticism of outside conservative groups.
    “Yesterday, when the criticism was coming, frankly I thought it was my job and my obligation to stand up for conservatives here in the Congress who want more deficit reduction, to stand up for the work that Chairman Ryan did,” he told reporters Thursday at a press conference dominated by questions about his dismissal of outside organizations like the Heritage Foundation and the Club for Growth.

    ‘Frankly, I just think that they have lost all credibility,” he added.

    Asked if he is effectively asking these organizations to stand down, Boehner offered this flat response: “I don’t care what they do.” <snip>


    Boehner to outside groups: 'Are you kidding me?' - NBC Politics

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    Re: Boehner lashes out at conservative groups on budget deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I would agree with that if the first shutdown hadn't happened. I said back then if the shutdown had been over spending I would have been onboard, but not over defunding Obamacare. I do not think the American people are ready for another shutdown this close to the last one, what ever the reason. I do not think it matters as to who is at fault or what it is all about, the Republicans would be tarred as the culprits who caused it. All you would hear from the public is, "Oh no, not again."
    See, I just don't think I believe that nor do I think it'd actually get to a shutdown if the Republicans were saying "1 year 'clean' CR continuing current spending levels".

    I think that would be VERY difficult for the Democrats to spin, and they'd know that, and as such would be apt to accept it rather than let the government shut down again and gamble that the public anger won't be flipped considering the script of whose doing what will be flipped in such a situation.

    I don't actually support the notion that we need to shut down the government right now....but my belief is that there's enough pressure to NOT shut down that it's plausible to negotiate a "clean" CR that maintains current levels.

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    Re: Boehner lashes out at conservative groups on budget deal

    So a guy with very little credibility is calling into question the credibility of others. Yep, that'll do much good

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    Re: Boehner lashes out at conservative groups on budget deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    So a guy with very little credibility is calling into question the credibility of others. Yep, that'll do much good
    Kinda like Dick Cheney calling Obama a liar. LOL!

    More like, "Pot, meet kettle?"

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    Re: Boehner lashes out at conservative groups on budget deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    See, I just don't think I believe that nor do I think it'd actually get to a shutdown if the Republicans were saying "1 year 'clean' CR continuing current spending levels".

    I think that would be VERY difficult for the Democrats to spin, and they'd know that, and as such would be apt to accept it rather than let the government shut down again and gamble that the public anger won't be flipped considering the script of whose doing what will be flipped in such a situation.

    I don't actually support the notion that we need to shut down the government right now....but my belief is that there's enough pressure to NOT shut down that it's plausible to negotiate a "clean" CR that maintains current levels.
    It's possible, I see nothing wrong in trying that. But what happens if the Democrats do not respond as you think they might. I don't know how the public would see it, but perception is worth a lot more than reality. I do think most people who don't pay any or much attention to the daily politics of government, will just assume it is the republicans at it again. I may be wrong, but with what little the GOP had to bargain with, perhaps this is the best deal they could possibly get. We don't know that for certain, but with the Democrats wanting another shutdown to re-coop from the bad roll out of the ACA, I think they would welcome it.
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    Re: Boehner lashes out at conservative groups on budget deal

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Heh, you have it with "at least 117 House members supported the TP stance". Doesn't mean they are controlled by the TP nor does it mean they are with the TP reps on everything. But you seem to be unaware of what you're saying - that it wasn't the TP that "forced a government shutdown". They are a exceedingly small part of the house and are not leadership.
    Yes...I have no idea what I'm saying..obviously the Tea Party is only as powerful as the number of people it caucuses with. That's the limit of it's influence.

    They are the most engaged bloc of Republican voters. 62% of Tea Partiers say they vote in primaries compared to 50% of overall Republicans. 49% of Republican primary voters are made up of tea partiers according to a Pew Research poll
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    You don't have to caucus with the Tea party to understand that if you aren't sufficiently popular with the Tea party a large chunk of your primary voters will find someone to back. You have Senators in statewide elections with very conservative voting records ousted during Primaries by a Tea party supported opponent. The Tea Party's power is in the primary...not the number of individuals that caucus in the House
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    Re: Boehner lashes out at conservative groups on budget deal

    I think Boehner is on his way out.

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    Re: Boehner lashes out at conservative groups on budget deal

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I think Boehner is on his way out.
    I'm curious too see how Far Right the Republicans in his district lean in this off-year election. If they elect a Tea Party candidate, the once solid GOP district may swing D because the area around Cincinnati is not that far Right. It'll make it interesting because Boehner usually runs unopposed.

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    Re: Boehner lashes out at conservative groups on budget deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    It doesn't matter.

    The Democrats will find a way to oppose this budget deal.

    Reid and his buddies will say one thing...do another...and, somehow, make it all the Republican's fault.
    You described the whole Obama presidency

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    Re: Boehner lashes out at conservative groups on budget deal

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    I'm curious too see how Far Right the Republicans in his district lean in this off-year election. If they elect a Tea Party candidate, the once solid GOP district may swing D because the area around Cincinnati is not that far Right. It'll make it interesting because Boehner usually runs unopposed.
    He may well keep his seat, just not be speaker any more.
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    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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