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    Re: Pope Francis is Time's Person of the Year......

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Well I don't think Jesus was much of a capitalist.
    I just love it when atheist libs use Jesus to try and make some point.

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    Re: Pope Francis is Time's Person of the Year......

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I just love it when atheist libs use Jesus to try and make some point.
    I'm not trying to liberalize Jesus, in fact I generally don't approve of trying to make Jesus into something regarding politics and economics since he talked mostly about salvation and ways for one to behave on a personal level. BUT when it comes to a man who represents the largest Church that worships and at least claims to follow the doctrine of Jesus Christ, a man who told the rich to sell everything they owned and give to the poor, or a man who said not to collect treasures on Earth, I can't really blame him for telling the wealthy to share their wealth.

    19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:

    20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:

    21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

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    Re: Pope Francis is Time's Person of the Year......

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    All you have to do is bash America and or capitalism and you are a shoe in.
    That's hilarious! A magazine that only exists today because it serves as a soapbox for corporate interests, and you think they are going to bash capitalism!

    If Time's Person of the Year was truly objective, they would have picked Edward Snowden! As much as I admire the new pope for reminding right wing Catholics what it really says in their bibles, Ed Snowden was the man who had the most impact on world events this year, since the rumours and concerns about government surveillance were not getting any traction until Snowden made his little trip to Hong Kong and ended up in Moscow.

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    Re: Pope Francis is Time's Person of the Year......

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    I'm not trying to liberalize Jesus, in fact I generally don't approve of trying to make Jesus into something regarding politics and economics since he talked mostly about salvation and ways for one to behave on a personal level. BUT when it comes to a man who represents the largest Church that worships and at least claims to follow the doctrine of Jesus Christ, a man who told the rich to sell everything they owned and give to the poor, or a man who said not to collect treasures on Earth, I can't really blame him for telling the wealthy to share their wealth.

    19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:

    20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:

    21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
    And that is why true Christians give to charities and use their money for the good. It does not however mean the state should confiscate your wealth and even things out as so many libs try to say.

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    Re: Pope Francis is Time's Person of the Year......

    Quote Originally Posted by Commie View Post
    That's hilarious! A magazine that only exists today because it serves as a soapbox for corporate interests, and you think they are going to bash capitalism!

    If Time's Person of the Year was truly objective, they would have picked Edward Snowden! As much as I admire the new pope for reminding right wing Catholics what it really says in their bibles, Ed Snowden was the man who had the most impact on world events this year, since the rumours and concerns about government surveillance were not getting any traction until Snowden made his little trip to Hong Kong and ended up in Moscow.
    TIME is left wing like all the so called main stream media in America and leftist are know for biting the hand that feeds them.

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    Re: Pope Francis is Time's Person of the Year......

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    And that is why true Christians give to charities and use their money for the good. It does not however mean the state should confiscate your wealth and even things out as so many libs try to say.
    I didn't say it meant that, I just said that I can understand a man who represents a Christian Church to tell people to be more giving with their money and who has some not too kind things to say about the folks who seemingly hoard so much money.

    Never said anything about the state taking your money.

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    Re: Pope Francis is Time's Person of the Year......

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    I didn't say it meant that, I just said that I can understand a man who represents a Christian Church to tell people to be more giving with their money and who has some not too kind things to say about the folks who seemingly hoard so much money.

    Never said anything about the state taking your money.
    What the pope did was to bash unfettered capitalism which does not even exist. He is either grossly uninformed or is implying the US has unfettered Capitalism. Either way he made a dumb ass statement and somehow that makes him person of the year?

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    Re: Pope Francis is Time's Person of the Year......

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    What the pope did was to bash unfettered capitalism which does not even exist. He is either grossly uninformed or is implying the US has unfettered Capitalism. Either way he made a dumb ass statement and somehow that makes him person of the year?
    Do you bash communism? Does "unfettered" communism exist?

    And I think the Pope, who's extremely educated, and has a large staff of extremely educated people working for him, isn't think either one of two stupid things.

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    Re: Pope Francis is Time's Person of the Year......

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    And that is why true Christians give to charities and use their money for the good. It does not however mean the state should confiscate your wealth and even things out as so many libs try to say.
    And, speaking from the pov of someone who is actively involved with charities dealing with the homeless and people living in poverty, I can testify that the donations dry up in the bad times when people are most in need, so it's pretty dispicable for someone claiming to be a Christian to tell poor people to beg for charity rather than have the assurance of having enough to eat and have a roof over their heads!

    If you are going to complain about taxes taking away your money, what do you think of the example in Acts ch.5, in the story of Ananias and Sapphira, where this wealthy couple were struck dead by the Holy Spirit for trying to hold back a little bit of their wealth, instead of giving it all for the common good, as all of the others in that early congregation were commanded to do?

    That first century congregation is as communist as anything Marx or Engels could have thought up! And the prevailing theme of the New Testament is anti-materialism, not consumerist hedonism that today's right wing Christians have turned into their gospel. If you are a follower of Ayn Rand, like Paul Ryan, you can't also call yourself a Christian...and I think that's the message Pope Francis is trying to get across to his flock.

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    Re: Pope Francis is Time's Person of the Year......

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    TIME is left wing like all the so called main stream media in America and leftist are know for biting the hand that feeds them.
    If TIME is biting the hand that feeds them, it would be a first!

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