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    Re: Mystery 'Tips for Jesus' tipper identified in NYC

    Quote Originally Posted by katsung47 View Post
    Thanks for correction. I was misled by the picture because siganture used to be on the bottom line. I still think it's someone gave out who thought he had the power of "god". The topic "tips for Jesus" may mean it.
    I think you are just jealous that he can tip so well.
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    Re: Mystery 'Tips for Jesus' tipper identified in NYC

    It could likely just mean that he is letting God work through him. Thanking God for allowing him to bless others. Not taking credit and going "Look at what I did for you" but rather "Look at what God did for you".

    That's just what I am interpreting it as.

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    Re: Mystery 'Tips for Jesus' tipper identified in NYC

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    You know of a private welfare organization that's funneling better than half a trillion dollars a year to the needy?

    Even if you combine the charitable help provided by the 50 largest charity organizations in America (The 50 Largest U.S. Charities List - Forbes) the total of their charitable giving doesn't even come close to the help the U.S. government doles out in any given year.

    The total expenditures (including charitable assistance but also including overhead) of those 50 organizations come to a hair under $30 billion. The U.S. welfare "budget" is about $550 billion (on the modest side, I've also seen the number placed as high as $1.1 trillion).

    Hands down the U.S. government runs the largest charity in the world.
    So $30 billion is an insignificant amount?
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    Re: Mystery 'Tips for Jesus' tipper identified in NYC

    Now even God uses a credit card? 10 Hundred Dollar Bills would have been more helpful, tax-wise.

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    Re: Mystery 'Tips for Jesus' tipper identified in NYC

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    Now even God uses a credit card? 10 Hundred Dollar Bills would have been more helpful, tax-wise.
    So true. I believe the rule is claim all credit card tips or 10% of your sales, whichever is greater.
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    Re: Mystery 'Tips for Jesus' tipper identified in NYC

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    You know of a private welfare organization that's funneling better than half a trillion dollars a year to the needy?

    Even if you combine the charitable help provided by the 50 largest charity organizations in America (The 50 Largest U.S. Charities List - Forbes) the total of their charitable giving doesn't even come close to the help the U.S. government doles out in any given year.

    The total expenditures (including charitable assistance but also including overhead) of those 50 organizations come to a hair under $30 billion. The U.S. welfare "budget" is about $550 billion (on the modest side, I've also seen the number placed as high as $1.1 trillion).

    Hands down the U.S. government runs the largest charity in the world.
    It's not charity, it's bribes for votes with other peoples money.

    But what's that got to do with a nice guy giving folks a little something extra for the holidays?
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    Re: Mystery 'Tips for Jesus' tipper identified in NYC

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    It's not charity, it's bribes for votes with other peoples money.

    But what's that got to do with a nice guy giving folks a little something extra for the holidays?
    Can't have private citizens showing that it is better to teach a man to fish. Disrupting the welfare system. All that jazz.
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    Re: Mystery 'Tips for Jesus' tipper identified in NYC

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    So $30 billion is an insignificant amount?
    If the "need" is actually for more than $1100 billion?

    Yeah, I'd say $30 billion is pretty much as good as useless.

    If the need is for $1.1T and voluntary charitable giving amounts to $30B it accounts for just a hair over 2.7% of the yearly need.

    That comes to just under 10 days worth of funding for charitable programs.

    So if things were left up to private charity the needy would be good for about a week and a half and then they'd lose everything and be living under bridges panhandling for food and selling their children into indentured servitude so that the kids might have some small chance of cobbling together a better life than their parents could hope to provide for them.

    Now, I understand that if the government were to do away with its charitable programs the tax rate could (would?) fall, people would be left with more money in their pockets, and then those who are charitably inclined could (would?) make greater charitable contributions.

    A couple of questions though...

    Would the increased charitable giving of those who are so inclined be sufficient?

    Would the giving of those who are charitably inclined make up for the lack of mandatory giving that is currently required (through taxation) of those who are not so inclined?

    Remember that we're only assuming that they'd pick up the slack.

    And what would happen if another 2008/2009 (or worse) came along again when it looked like, or when the scare-mongering media convinced feeble-minded Americans (most of the population) that, the bottom might really be falling out?

    When Americans with money, even good Christian Americans, started pumping their money into gold, guns, MREs, and etc. in preparation for the "end of times" would they still be thinking about making charitable contributions to the need to a sufficient degree, if at all, to meet not only the existing need but the increased need that hard times create?
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    Re: Mystery 'Tips for Jesus' tipper identified in NYC

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    If the "need" is actually for more than $1100 billion?

    Yeah, I'd say $30 billion is pretty much as good as useless.

    If the need is for $1.1T and voluntary charitable giving amounts to $30B it accounts for just a hair over 2.7% of the yearly need.

    That comes to just under 10 days worth of funding for charitable programs.

    So if things were left up to private charity the needy would be good for about a week and a half and then they'd lose everything and be living under bridges panhandling for food and selling their children into indentured servitude so that the kids might have some small chance of cobbling together a better life than their parents could hope to provide for them.

    Now, I understand that if the government were to do away with its charitable programs the tax rate could (would?) fall, people would be left with more money in their pockets, and then those who are charitably inclined could (would?) make greater charitable contributions.

    A couple of questions though...

    Would the increased charitable giving of those who are so inclined be sufficient?

    Would the giving of those who are charitably inclined make up for the lack of mandatory giving that is currently required (through taxation) of those who are not so inclined?

    Remember that we're only assuming that they'd pick up the slack.

    And what would happen if another 2008/2009 (or worse) came along again when it looked like, or when the scare-mongering media convinced feeble-minded Americans (most of the population) that, the bottom might really be falling out?

    When Americans with money, even good Christian Americans, started pumping their money into gold, guns, MREs, and etc. in preparation for the "end of times" would they still be thinking about making charitable contributions to the need to a sufficient degree, if at all, to meet not only the existing need but the increased need that hard times create?
    Making a few fun assumptions (1 being that the need is actually $1100 billion...and that the inefficiency in the system and abuse thereof does not account for that need).

    But let me ask you. Does all that BS, because that is all it really is regarding government welfare, take away from the fact that this guy was doing a good deed and people started to trash him for doing so? Come on.

    And $30 billion isn't useless. It is a huge sum of money.
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    Re: Mystery 'Tips for Jesus' tipper identified in NYC

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    It's not charity, it's bribes for votes with other peoples money.
    Semantics and hyperbole.

    But what's that got to do with a nice guy giving folks a little something extra for the holidays?
    It was a response to this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I think progressives cant stand the fact that individuals instead of government are helping people.
    That’s a pretty stupid statement to make both in general but more importantly in the context of this thread because nobody is really criticizing the fact that this individual helped people.

    People poked some fun at the God voodoo but nobody said a disparaging word about the substance of what the guy did.

    But on a broader scale it speaks to the wider lunatic fringe conservative notion that the government shouldn’t be helping people at all; that help for the need should be entirely addressed through private charity and philanthropy.

    And my argument is that private charity and philanthropy would be wholly insufficient given the scope of the problem and historical precedent.
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    And the epitaph drear: “A Fool lies here who tried to hustle the East.”

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