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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

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    but not nearly as socialistic as celery.
    Broccoli is the most socialist



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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

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    Broccoli is the most socialist

    LOL! I remember that. Didn't the broccoli growers dump a truck load of the stuff on the white house lawn in protest?
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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

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    LOL! I remember that. Didn't the broccoli growers dump a truck load of the stuff on the white house lawn in protest?
    Maybe...I don't recall that part. Kind of childish really. The man didn't like eating broccoli. So what? It's not like he wanted to make it illegal, he just didn't want to eat it.


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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

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    Maybe...I don't recall that part. Kind of childish really. The man didn't like eating broccoli. So what? It's not like he wanted to make it illegal, he just didn't want to eat it.
    A statement like that from the POTUS can influence people to not eat the stuff and thus depress the market and cost growers money. It's not like the president has as much power as, say for example, Oprah, but people do tend to take what he says seriously even when what he says is not meant that way.
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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

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    A statement like that from the POTUS can influence people to not eat the stuff and thus depress the market and cost growers money. It's not like the president has as much power as, say for example, Oprah, but people do tend to take what he says seriously even when what he says is not meant that way.
    Wasn't it Hillary that said she didn't like broccoli? I seem to remember broccoli futures crashed right after that.

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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

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    Wasn't it Hillary that said she didn't like broccoli? I seem to remember broccoli futures crashed right after that.
    She might have, but it was Bush I and the video clip Rocket88 posted that I remember.

    Oh, here's the story about the truckload of broccoli. It seems it was two truckloads, but it didn't go to waste:

    WASHINGTON — The nation's most famous broccoli shipment was welcomed at the White House Monday by Barbara Bush, her faithful dog, Millie, and scores of White House reporters, who milled around the dark green stalks looking for news.

    As Mrs. Bush surveyed the scene and tried, without success, to keep a straight face, George Dunlop, president of the Washington-based United Fresh Fruit and Vegetable Assn., waxed metaphorical.
    Broccoli is "a green beam of light" emanating from one of President Bush's famous thousand points of light, he said as he presented the First Lady with a beribboned vegetable bouquet. An additional 10 tons of the California-grown vegetable, which arrived in two truckloads, is being donated to a capital-area food bank.
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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

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    and the right wing wants government to dictate morals as well. Only the libertarians are truly pro liberty and individual choice.
    There is often a conflict between government, individual liberty and morality. How we define each term according to the given situation is a question philosophers have been asking themselves for centuries. It seems there is no quick fix.

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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

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    There is often a conflict between government, individual liberty and morality. How we define each term according to the given situation is a question philosophers have been asking themselves for centuries. It seems there is no quick fix.
    Of course there is. It is written quite simply in the Declaration of Independence "... it is for the preservation of these rights that governments are instituted among men..."
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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    A statement like that from the POTUS can influence people to not eat the stuff and thus depress the market and cost growers money. It's not like the president has as much power as, say for example, Oprah, but people do tend to take what he says seriously even when what he says is not meant that way.
    Give me a break.

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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

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    No, I identified what you where trying to do and stopped it. Since you cannot argue issues, what you do is try and assign a label to people, then argue against an extreme position of that label. It would be the equivalent of me saying that since you are against abortion rights(assuming you are, this is just an example), then therefor you are "pro-life". Some pro-life people bomb abortion clinics. Therefore you are a terrorist. It is a stupid argument. Your premise fails further since a statist is simply one who believes in some level of central state control. This includes liberals, conservatives and most libertarians, not to mention greens, socialists and virtually every other group. More than likely, you are a statist.
    Its not an extreme position. FACT-liberals are for more govt control (typically under the guise of it being to help). Trying to drag up an obscure and unrelated definition of the word doesent help you make your point.

    To the underlined passage above-no no no, thats not a statist- you need to go back and read the definition again, because it seems to be slipping right past.

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