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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    What can't?

    No socialism means socialism - kinda like the overall goal of unions is socialism and democrats er "progressives" love them some unions.

    Funny how you're defending socialism now....

    "socialism" does not mean "things Mr. Nick doesn't like."

    ^ do you have any idea how many times I have heard that verbatim???

    You must have gotten that out of the "progressive handbook" that progressives love to hand out...

    Funny how you need someone to tell you what to say to defend the progressive party while you sit here and claim these clowns aren't communist....
    I'm not "defending socialism." I'm saying that, if you think more than half of the American electorate is socialist, then you have no idea what socialism means. And the idea that the "ultimate goal of unions is socialism" is laughably stupid.
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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Or those who were sympathetic to communism in the 60's and 70's now run our government and our education institutions? ever think about that?

    Higher learning is already infested with outspoken socialists - radical communists - that freely brainwash youth....

    You really think in this day in age the communists that exist in the US have any desire to fight their war with guns and coups? hell no - they damn well know the way you employ communism is through "progress" and the only way to achieve that is via government and education institutions..... They don't have the cannon fodder for a revolution, however they do have the time to brainwash kids with their politics.......

    I could write a book on this ****....

    Marx to Lennin to Stalin to Mao to Ho Chi Minh to the SDS to the Weather Underground to professors to government...... That's ****ing "progress" to the communist.
    First of all, if you want to be taken seriously in debates I would remove the 'John Galt reference' I like fiction authors too, but i don't let them inform my political views.

    secondly . I guess there is no secondly, I just can't take you seriously. (see firstly)
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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I'm not "defending socialism." I'm saying that, if you think more than half of the American electorate is socialist, then you have no idea what socialism means. And the idea that the "ultimate goal of unions is socialism" is laughably stupid.
    If unions don't believe in that then why do they believe that businesses only exist to employ them? why are they so anti-profit? why the **** do they protest every time their contract is up?

    Profits go down yet union salaries go up -- if unions were so ****ing "capitalist" they would realize that, understand that and deal with that, yet they DONT. You see - unions generally don't go backwards - they only go forwards...

    NO, you were defending socialism... You attempting to claim I was ignorant to socialism may as well read: "you must pass socialism to see whats in it" - like you're selling it as Obamacare (which is pseudo-communism btw).

    If you disagree with me tell me some of the capitalist/free market ideas that democrats/progressives adhere to. Certainly if the "left" embraces capitalism so much you can blast some ideas off.

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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    If unions don't believe in that then why do they believe that businesses only exist to employ them? why are they so anti-profit? why the **** do they protest every time their contract is up?

    Profits go down yet union salaries go up -- if unions were so ****ing "capitalist" they would realize that, understand that and deal with that, yet they DONT. You see - unions generally don't go backwards - they only go forwards...

    NO, you were defending socialism... You attempting to claim I was ignorant to socialism may as well read: "you must pass socialism to see whats in it" - like you're selling it as Obamacare (which is pseudo-communism btw).

    If you disagree with me tell me some of the capitalist/free market ideas that democrats/progressives adhere to. Certainly if the "left" embraces capitalism so much you can blast some ideas off.
    Democrats and liberals are all for companies making profit, as long as they don't screw their workers or the environment to do it.

    Obamacare, which is basically mandatory insurance with partially subsidized exchanges, is "pseudo-Communism"? Again, you simply have no idea what you're talking about.
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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

    Quote Originally Posted by rjay View Post
    First of all, if you want to be taken seriously in debates I would remove the 'John Galt reference' I like fiction authors too, but i don't let them inform my political views.

    secondly . I guess there is no secondly, I just can't take you seriously. (see firstly)
    I don't give a **** if you take me seriously or not, however apparently you do because you're calling me out....

    I'm not here to "debate" - there is no goddamn debate - there is only the gorilla in the room pretending to be a mouse. I'm here to call the obvious out - not debate the obvious.



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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Democrats and liberals are all for companies making profit, as long as they don't screw their workers or the environment to do it.

    Obamacare, which is basically mandatory insurance with partially subsidized exchanges, is "pseudo-Communism"? Again, you simply have no idea what you're talking about.
    What a subjective statement there....... To labor unions anything but an equal split in profits among the employees er "workers" is "screwing the employees over"...... Don't even lie and say that's not the goddamn case...... You think I live in a cave pal??? I live in Chicago and see plenty of union rallies, progressive rallies, DNC rallies, and you know what popular at those rallies and protests??? COMMUNISM! communist books, propaganda, flags, signs, speech, buttons. Pro Mao, Marx, Guevara, Castro, Stalin t-shirts.... Now you deny these unions and progressives when around one another DONT work themselves up into a radical communist frenzy?

    I have no idea what I'm talking about?

    You're the one speaking for the ****ing democrat party....

    I don't believe one word you say! The sad part is that I think you actually believe what you say...

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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I have no idea what I'm talking about?
    That's right, you don't. I don't buy your anecdotal evidence for a second. I've been to union rallies before, and saw precisely ZERO "communist books, propaganda, etc."
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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Democrats and liberals are all for companies making profit, as long as they don't screw their workers or the environment to do it.

    Obamacare, which is basically mandatory insurance with partially subsidized exchanges, is "pseudo-Communism"? Again, you simply have no idea what you're talking about.
    whoa, stop right there. You are trying to make sense. This will never do.

    don't you have any preconceived misconceptions you can throw out? That is what you need for this debate
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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Democrats and liberals are all for companies making profit, as long as they don't screw their workers or the environment to do it.
    What this actually means, is that you are for profit as long as they do everything you and your statist buddies tell them to do.

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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    That's right, you don't. I don't buy your anecdotal evidence for a second. I've been to union rallies before, and saw precisely ZERO "communist books, propaganda, etc."
    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    That's right, you don't. I don't buy your anecdotal evidence for a second. I've been to union rallies before, and saw precisely ZERO "communist books, propaganda, etc."
    It all depends where you live too... Chicago unions are hardcore communists and they make absolutely ZERO effort to hide that. I wouldn't expect the same thing to occur in a small city in Montana where 20-30 union members are protesting.... I'm talking thousands of collectivists here in Chicago protesting for Red Amy ****....

    You ever hear of OWS?

    That is another fine example - I was down in Chicago for that **** - 90% were blatant communists and the rest were libertarians - of course the libertarians did their best to keep a distance from those dirty communist freaks....... I've never seen anything so disgusting my entire life. Half of the idiots didn't even know what was going on, the other half were marching at the beat of a drum like sheeple from Orwells 1984.... A "leader" would say some crazy pro-communist propaganda then the entire "clan" under that "leader" or "chapter" would repeat everything the leader said. They were like zombies - it was creepy.

    So, I'm not interested in hearing your denial in what I have seen first hand....

    These people are evil and they will sell their soul to the devil if it means the government steals from the wealthy and gives to THEM - THE LAZY YOUTH OF AMERICA - OR GIVES THEM A JOB THEY CAN SLACK OFF IN WHILE HIDING BEHIND A UNION....

    I wouldn't be here right now arguing about this if I wasn't concerned about it....

    This is how you destroy capitalism tho - something they want.

    The Naked Communist is alive an well today, which is the blueprint for destroying capitalism... They're the ones responsible for the destruction of capitalism - that's their goal - through unions, regulations, taxation, government dictation... We don't even have capitalism anymore - we have forces destroying "capitalism" while these ****ing communists blame capitalism as the root of the fail of capitalism and PROGRESSIVES BUY IT.............Unions make it impossible to do business - now these asshats actually demand 15 bucks an hour??? yeah that sounds like anti-capitalism to me - the best part is that these morons may as well be pricing themselves out of their own jobs...

    These people operate on hate of capitalism, the hate of profits and the hate of work...

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