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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackAsCoal View Post
    There are lots of charts I could have posted .. whatever you are.

    Such as this one ..



    There are lots of charts that clearly demonstrate the rise in the prison population is directly related to the war on drugs and the jailing on non-violent criminals .. whatever you are. :0)

    As for the rest of your kinda' whiny post, I'm not really interested in any pissing contest. How about this .. you win. I am so very impressed by your intellectual prowess. :0)

    If you don't mind, I'd like to get back to civil conversation now.

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    I'm anti the war on drugs but you can't compare that to locking people up for speaking out against the regime.

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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I'm anti the war on drugs but you can't compare that to locking people up for speaking out against the regime.
    I agree with you .. but we aren't Cubans with our nation under constant attack from the huge militaristic nation off our shores .. that has already attempted invasion, assassination, and overthrow .. and that has an infamous military lockup on our shores.

    That might change our perspectives a bit.

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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Cool, enjoy Cuba and stay the hell out of the US.
    (grin!)
    Cool. You're always welcome here, acourse. All we ask of our American visitors is that while you're here you don't shoot anyone and you don't yodel when you sing.
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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    So the only way you can defend Obama is by comparing him to Bush, the American president you love to hate? High praise indeed.
    Actually, I really don't like Obama either. I'm just saying this really isn't a news story, because leaders and diplomats do it all the time.

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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    Yeah, it is. Actually, it's the people I support, not the government.
    I like touring around the US too, (used to, anyway, 'till the gov't decided I need a passport for Homeland Security reasons), despite things like this...

    Fourth marijuana conviction gets Slidell man life in prison | NOLA.com

    "Cornell Hood II got off with probation after three marijuana convictions in New Orleans. He didn't fare too well after moving to St. Tammany Parish, however. A single such conviction on the north shore landed the 35-year-old in prison for the rest of his life."

    Pot laws are no more defensible than laws against protest and dissent. Both put people in jail for no more reason than they've offended someone.
    Umm, you know what happens to pot smokers in Cuba right? They go to jail.

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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    How can you ask a past tense question about something that has yet to happen.
    Its happening, certainly here in CA it is.

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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackAsCoal View Post
    There are lots of charts I could have posted .. whatever you are.

    Such as this one ..



    There are lots of charts that clearly demonstrate the rise in the prison population is directly related to the war on drugs and the jailing on non-violent criminals .. whatever you are. :0)

    As for the rest of your kinda' whiny post, I'm not really interested in any pissing contest. How about this .. you win. I am so very impressed by your intellectual prowess. :0)

    If you don't mind, I'd like to get back to civil conversation now.

    Thanks. :0)
    You respond by posing the same data THAT MEANS NOTHING ALONE. It not simply about a rise in the incarcerated population-im not debating that.

    BTW the spike in both crime in the 80's, as well as the spike in incarceration correlates with the spike in gang violence and crack.

    I dont want a guy convicted 3 separate times (each unanimously) for selling crack on the street-because if he is-there he is MOST LIKELY going to do the same. And a non-violent conviction DOES NOT MEAN he is not violent.

    Here my question, with the large increase of non-violent felons in jail, we see a reduction in crime. Why is that?

    One more question-if the "war on drugs" is lost, why isn't the "war on poverty"?

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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Nice comeback and pretty much an admission I'm correct.
    Not exactly.
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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Actually no, he didn't. Sorry to break it to you after you went to all that trouble to drink all that koolaid, but the image floating around the moron leftist sites was faked.
    Um, evidence that this is true?
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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

    Even if him kissing on the mouth is fake but he really did plant or pretended to plant one on his cheek, it's still the cheek of a tyrant and really little difference then Obama shaking a tyrants hand. Except that he's a democrat.

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