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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Is it important why people are imprisoned or is it just the number that is important?
    Both.

    It's also important who we imprison.

    It's also important why we imprison so many people .. for the profit.

    The Sentencing Project News - America's for-profit prisons: Greed over justice


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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackAsCoal View Post
    Both.

    It's also important who we imprison.

    It's also important why we imprison so many people .. for the profit.

    The Sentencing Project News - America's for-profit prisons: Greed over justice

    You just regurgitate propaganda. One of the biggest reasons (after an aging boomer population) that the nation has lowering crime rates is because we jail repeat offenders. Its been VERY effective in removing career criminals from the population. Other nations dont have the resources to do this-we do. Your little chart does not account for population growth, improved law enforcement, and a building of prisons to actually house these criminals. But Im sure pictures are fun to look at n stuff.

    And I dont care if they are violent crimes or not-crime is crime and anyone who commits enough major crime to get 3 distinct convictions-needs to go away. I would also support the option for them to be air dropped onto a remote prison island, where they can eat coconuts and scam each other until they drop.

    Let me guess, socialist. We should not jail them-because the great expense is about "greed". Of course this means more crime, and being a socialist that make things more favorable to your ideology, it all goes back to critical theory.

    Let me guess, socialist. We should compassionately rehab these patients-because prison isnt about removing criminals from the population or punishment, but "education".

    My state is filled with hippies with this failed line of thinking, and it got us the highest recidivism rate in the country-70 percent.
    http://ucicorrections.seweb.uci.edu/...vol-1_is-1.pdf

    Which brings me back full circle-70% of the guys in prison will quickly return to a life of crime (if 70% are caught and reconvicted, think how many aren't). So you tell me, socialist, is it better to keep the insane cycle repeating or to keep them in prison?

    Here are the charts you should have posted, socialist.

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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

    Ah! Major crime, yes. OMG smoking marijauna.

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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Ah! Major crime, yes. OMG smoking marijauna.
    Surely this will demonstrably drop with the legalisation of marijuana, or has it?

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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

    Quote Originally Posted by Ad_Captandum View Post
    Bush kissed the Saudi King on the lips to show his respect for the guy who financed Al-Qaeda, so, please, just shut up with your partisan nonsense. Leaders play the diplomacy game, we know.
    So the only way you can defend Obama is by comparing him to Bush, the American president you love to hate? High praise indeed.

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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Yes, I do and thank you for that.



    Perhaps you can point to the kinder, gentler side of Raul Castro and how he rebelled against his brothers tyranny over the decades, refusing all the splendor Fidel enjoyed. That should be on google as well.

    Are there any hard core leftists do you admire?
    Like you, I have not a clue about anything regarding Raul. Don't know the guy at all.

    Ralph nader
    Howard Zinn
    Bernie sanders
    Elizabeth warren

    I admire these leftists quite a bit.
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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Surely this will demonstrably drop with the legalisation of marijuana, or has it?
    How can you ask a past tense question about something that has yet to happen.
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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Nice country you support with your vacations.
    Yeah, it is. Actually, it's the people I support, not the government.
    I like touring around the US too, (used to, anyway, 'till the gov't decided I need a passport for Homeland Security reasons), despite things like this...

    Fourth marijuana conviction gets Slidell man life in prison | NOLA.com

    "Cornell Hood II got off with probation after three marijuana convictions in New Orleans. He didn't fare too well after moving to St. Tammany Parish, however. A single such conviction on the north shore landed the 35-year-old in prison for the rest of his life."

    Pot laws are no more defensible than laws against protest and dissent. Both put people in jail for no more reason than they've offended someone.
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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    You just regurgitate propaganda. One of the biggest reasons (after an aging boomer population) that the nation has lowering crime rates is because we jail repeat offenders. Its been VERY effective in removing career criminals from the population. Other nations dont have the resources to do this-we do. Your little chart does not account for population growth, improved law enforcement, and a building of prisons to actually house these criminals. But Im sure pictures are fun to look at n stuff.

    And I dont care if they are violent crimes or not-crime is crime and anyone who commits enough major crime to get 3 distinct convictions-needs to go away. I would also support the option for them to be air dropped onto a remote prison island, where they can eat coconuts and scam each other until they drop.

    Let me guess, socialist. We should not jail them-because the great expense is about "greed". Of course this means more crime, and being a socialist that make things more favorable to your ideology, it all goes back to critical theory.

    Let me guess, socialist. We should compassionately rehab these patients-because prison isnt about removing criminals from the population or punishment, but "education".

    My state is filled with hippies with this failed line of thinking, and it got us the highest recidivism rate in the country-70 percent.
    http://ucicorrections.seweb.uci.edu/...vol-1_is-1.pdf

    Which brings me back full circle-70% of the guys in prison will quickly return to a life of crime (if 70% are caught and reconvicted, think how many aren't). So you tell me, socialist, is it better to keep the insane cycle repeating or to keep them in prison?

    Here are the charts you should have posted, socialist.

    There are lots of charts I could have posted .. whatever you are.

    Such as this one ..



    There are lots of charts that clearly demonstrate the rise in the prison population is directly related to the war on drugs and the jailing on non-violent criminals .. whatever you are. :0)

    As for the rest of your kinda' whiny post, I'm not really interested in any pissing contest. How about this .. you win. I am so very impressed by your intellectual prowess. :0)

    If you don't mind, I'd like to get back to civil conversation now.

    Thanks. :0)

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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    Yeah, it is. Actually, it's the people I support, not the government.
    I like touring around the US too, (used to, anyway, 'till the gov't decided I need a passport for Homeland Security reasons), despite things like this...

    Fourth marijuana conviction gets Slidell man life in prison | NOLA.com

    "Cornell Hood II got off with probation after three marijuana convictions in New Orleans. He didn't fare too well after moving to St. Tammany Parish, however. A single such conviction on the north shore landed the 35-year-old in prison for the rest of his life."

    Pot laws are no more defensible than laws against protest and dissent. Both put people in jail for no more reason than they've offended someone.
    Cool, enjoy Cuba and stay the hell out of the US.

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