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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Actually I think it's attitudes like yours leading to our decline.
    Care to elaborate?

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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Because they were allies against communism when the cold war was Americas biggest threat. We were allies with Stalin too if you remember your history at all.
    Of course you're right. It's useless to compare what went on in wartime with what goes on in peacetime.

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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    I contend that prosperity brings freedom.
    Actually freedom brings prosperity.

    I remember the USSR and how when we gave in and sent them food, the beginning of the end of Strict Communism was not too far behind.
    Do you feel that sending Russia wheat was the end of Communism? For whom?

    Yes, lets lay on their beaches, just as we do the rest of the Caribbean and poison their minds with our wealth and our liberties (we still have some) and I believe we'll see real change forced upon the dictators.
    How does wealth and freedom poison minds? Would they be better off with food stamps?

    The ghost of Meyer Lansky would approve.
    Does anyone really care about Meyer Lansky?

    Apologies if you were just being sarcastic here. I'm not certain you're serious.

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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    He should have given him a very brief and formal hand shake while looking him straight in the eye and quickly moved on without saying anything. That would be proper protocol. No need to bow and scrape or "step and fetch" even.


    EDIT: It almost looks like he's saying "yes massa".
    Much ado about nothing - expected behavior from small-minded clowns.
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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Actually freedom brings prosperity.

    Do you feel that sending Russia wheat was the end of Communism? For whom?

    How does wealth and freedom poison minds? Would they be better off with food stamps?

    Does anyone really care about Meyer Lansky?

    Apologies if you were just being sarcastic here. I'm not certain you're serious.
    Actually freedom brings prosperity.
    •They go hand in hand. It doesn't matter who goes first.

    Do you feel that sending Russia wheat was the end of Communism? For whom?
    • Yes, it is just my opinion. So, I guess for me.

    How does wealth and freedom poison minds? Would they be better off with food stamps?
    • That was meant to be humorous. The "poisoning" thing I mean. I meant it in a good way, like giving suppressed masses a taste of the better life.

    Does anyone really care about Meyer Lansky? Apologies if you were just being sarcastic here. I'm not certain you're serious.
    •The Meyer Lansky comment was meant as gentle humor. I saw a movie decades ago showing Lansky in Cuba doing his thing and partying hard. Casinos, trollops, all that stuff. I didn't expect anyone to care. I'm just being light-hearted but at the same time I'm discussing the OP and its ramifications.

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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    And when did the US have the moral high ground? Sounds like 'rah rah America' cheer leading.
    we have a great system of government, run into the ground by hyperpartisan hacks.

    We have a dynamic economy -for the 1%'rs, whom have gained back almost all pre-recession losses.

    We have a right to strike back at terrorists, whom truely pose a threat to the US, but we wind up entagling ourselves in foreign civil wars.
    ( Libya/Afganistan/ Yemen to an extent)

    I'm all for American exceptionalism, we can be an exceptional people. I'm not all for the idea we have to impose our standards on the rest of the world.
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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    That is a classic apologist.
    You're not aware of the custom? Don't get out much?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Much ado about nothing - expected behavior from small-minded clowns.
    "Birds of a feather...."

    Greetings, SMTA.

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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    The government controls everything in Cuba.

    If the government wanted those buildings fixed, they would be fixed.

    Do you think if the US trades with Cuba, it will all of a sudden become a democratic capitalist society?
    since you addresed me, the Havana buildings are constantly worked on.
    They need to raze some of them, and need US type contractors - skilled labor, but more than that materials.
    Craftmen/carpenters manage to try to kepp them up, but the climate, and the age is taking it's toll.

    Again i mention the US is a natural trading partner (by geography), and it is just plain stupid to keep a hostile regime
    even more hostile by a useless US Embargo.

    Yes Cuba trades with the world, but the old Soviet subsidys are gone. The US subsidizes our sugar - it's even called "Big Sugar"
    and it's damn near ruined the Everglades.

    Cuba isn't a rich country, and their socilism has good and bad parts, they are finally encouracing some private enterprise.
    The US should be encouraging this, not punishing them with an outdated Embargo

    The Cuban Embargo is FUBAR - Urban Dictionary: fubar
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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    That was also the same situation in the Middle East when he bowed there, and Human Rights was not an issue then. Democracy and human rights are no longer a major concern for Barrack Obama.
    Of course Obama is going to shake Castro's hand; they're fellow Conmunists. We are all aware of the millions of murders committed by the Communists.

    Obama probably wispered to him, "I wish I could get away with it, too".
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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