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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

    Quote Originally Posted by instagramsci View Post
    If anything liberalism is idealist.

    Also blaming it on rich people is horribly reductionist.
    Said as if class struggle isnt a central tenet of the left.

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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

    Quote Originally Posted by instagramsci View Post
    Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't realize you wanted a serious answer oh libertarian guru.
    I rarely troll, unlike others apparently.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    As I recall, there are those on the right opposed to throwing around our influence around the world anymore due to high government spending. Also, who is "the left"?
    OK, so I just couldn't help but put these these 2 things together:



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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Said as if class struggle isnt a central tenet of the left.
    Of the actual left, yeah. Not of American liberals, progressives, or whatever. They're just fine with class.
    "...it is all the more clear what we have to accomplish at present: I am referring to ruthless criticism of all that exists,"

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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I rarely troll, unlike others apparently.
    Who's trolling?
    "...it is all the more clear what we have to accomplish at present: I am referring to ruthless criticism of all that exists,"

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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I expect him to be a strong leader, acting in the US's best interest-why is that too much to ask?

    Instead, the worlds B-team lives la vida loca, knowing Obama isn't going to do a damn thing.
    And what is the US's best interest, more war?

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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Hi MMC! Yeah been running around like chicken little, lol. True, I've heard Rubio on Cuba.
    Glad to see ya back......haven't had much going in FP since ya left. Lately just here and there shots.....but I am still staying in check with most of it.

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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Obama would have to bend slightly to look Castro in the eye given their relative heights.
    But doesn't Obama enjoy looking down his nose at people?

    Why try to be on the same level as Castro?

    Iran first then Cuba?

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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackAsCoal View Post
    I respect your perspective brother, but I vehemently disagree. Castro lasted through 11 US presidents and an embargo. Our policy towards Cuba has failed. In spite of the US embargo, Cuba still managed to improve the lives of Cubans exponentially from the days of Batista and mafia 'donkey shows.'
    Our policy towards Cuba has failed because our policy was flawed from the beginning. Our policy should always have been and should always be one of Isolationism.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackAsCoal View Post
    Cuba offers free health care and education to its citizens cradle to grave, and has the highest percentage of doctors in the world.
    My question would be how those doctors stack up to the average doctor here in the United States. I don't know, nor do I intend to find out. I am not a believer in social welfare, government led healthcare or education, so we're probably not going to find much common ground on the issue of what a wonderful place Cuba is.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackAsCoal View Post
    My avatar is that of my daughter .. and US aggression around the world is no friend of the American soldier, who continues to suffer from astronomical rates of suicide, depression, PTSD, and other forms of combat fatigue.
    Please thank her for her service on my behalf. I will definitely agree that US aggression around the world is no friend of the American soldier, nor is our desire to be the world's law enforcement officers, social workers, disaster recovery teams, etc.... My family's history of military service to this country goes all the way back to the Frech & Indian War and we haven't missed too many conflicts since. What we do to our soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines and coastguardsmen is disgusting. We treat them like disposable diapers, and it's quite a black eye for this country so far as I'm concerned. Personally, I'd bring them all home tomorrow if I had the power to do it. We've got plenty of things they could be doing here to help this country (border security being the biggest one).

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    Re: Obama shakes hands with Cuba's Castro in 'gesture of hope'

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Obama should have had a Marine swoop in with a step ladder for Castro. That would would have been the appropriate thing to do.
    Or at least pick up Castro under the arms for the handshake.

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