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Texas Campus Cop Kills Unarmed College Student After Sarcastic Remark

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My tin foil hat alarms are going off on this one.

Texas Campus Cop Kills Unarmed College Student After Sarcastic Remark

The 23-year-old communications arts major Robert Cameron Redus was pulled over for allegedly driving recklessly, according the police. After a “struggle” took place, the officer, Christopher Carter, fired six shots. The incident took place at an apartment complex not far from the school.

“I didn't hear him say anything like, 'Get down on your hands and knees,' you know? I didn't hear him say anything. He just started shooting,” one witness told KSAT.com.

Another witness told the San Antonio Express News that he heard Redus’ last words. “I heard (a man) say, 'Oh, you're gonna shoot me?' like sarcastic almost,” said Mohammad Haidarasl.


Campus officer shoots, kills Texas college student after chase

Alamo Heights police and the Texas Rangers were in charge of the investigation, which could be complicated because there's no video record of the first fatal police shooting in the school's history.

University squad cars do come equipped with dashboard cams — but "it had fallen off the evening before the incident," the university said, blaming a change in the weather for causing the glue to fail.​
 
poweRob said:
My tin foil hat alarms are going off on this one.

Texas Campus Cop Kills Unarmed College Student After Sarcastic Remark

The 23-year-old communications arts major Robert Cameron Redus was pulled over for allegedly driving recklessly, according the police. After a “struggle” took place, the officer, Christopher Carter, fired six shots. The incident took place at an apartment complex not far from the school.

“I didn't hear him say anything like, 'Get down on your hands and knees,' you know? I didn't hear him say anything. He just started shooting,” one witness told KSAT.com.

Another witness told the San Antonio Express News that he heard Redus’ last words. “I heard (a man) say, 'Oh, you're gonna shoot me?' like sarcastic almost,” said Mohammad Haidarasl.


Campus officer shoots, kills Texas college student after chase

Alamo Heights police and the Texas Rangers were in charge of the investigation, which could be complicated because there's no video record of the first fatal police shooting in the school's history.

University squad cars do come equipped with dashboard cams — but "it had fallen off the evening before the incident," the university said, blaming a change in the weather for causing the glue to fail.​
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I don't tolerate sarcasm and I've shot many DP members for unlawful use thereof.

Protect and serve. NOTE: buy better glue for video-cams.
 
There are stories like this on line every single day! In so many ways LE is out of control.
 
This was also in one of the articles...

documents published by the San Antonio Express News show that he worked for the Texas university for two and a half years after holding nine different jobs at eight separate law enforcement agencies.​

Kind of sounds like people shifting crap around instead of fixing it.
 
There won't be any winners or losers when this eventually goes to court. The cop will be fired and his career will be in the gutter whether he was justified or not. The kid won't get a chance to graduate and move on to have a productive life.
 
A Texas campus police officer shot and killed an honors student after a high-speed chase because the student stole his baton and began attacking him with it, the college said Monday.
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Did he attack the officer sarcastically?

Taking a cop's baton away and attacking him with it is not too smart, particularly for an honor student. My guess is that there were chemicals involved, most likely ethanol.
 
Hatuey said:
There won't be any winners or losers when this eventually goes to court. The cop will be fired and his career will be in the gutter. The kid won't get a chance to graduate and move on to have a productive life.
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Care to bet on the outcome?

This has nothing to do with politics and I'm NOT giving you a hard time. But I see how most of these things turn out and the cops take very good care of their own no matter how egregious the behavior.

The camera fell off. Sure. Right.
 
Dittohead not! said:
Did he attack the officer sarcastically?

Taking a cop's baton away and attacking him with it is not too smart, particularly for an honor student. My guess is that there were chemicals involved, most likely ethanol.
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I'd venture to guess that it was personal in some sort of way.
 
Dittohead not! said:
Did he attack the officer sarcastically?

Taking a cop's baton away and attacking him with it is not too smart, particularly for an honor student. My guess is that there were chemicals involved, most likely ethanol.
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I wouldn't be so ready to support any statement's that the student attacked the cop. The statement seems to come from the police department and not any witness statement.
 
Frikkin' media. This already sounds like just a sad situation without the ridiculously inflammatory headline.
 
specklebang said:
Care to bet on the outcome?

This has nothing to do with politics and I'm NOT giving you a hard time. But I see how most of these things turn out and the cops take very good care of their own no matter how egregious the behavior.

The camera fell off. Sure. Right.
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Even if the camera fell off... it just so happens it occurred the night before. I doubt that timing coincidence. So even if it fell off, they are probably covering up that the damn thing has been off for months and don't want to get in trouble about that either.
 
Dittohead not! said:
Did he attack the officer sarcastically?

Taking a cop's baton away and attacking him with it is not too smart, particularly for an honor student. My guess is that there were chemicals involved, most likely ethanol.
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Sorry, anything you say that's short of saying the cop committed premeditated murder will not be well received in this thread.
 
2 paths. Drugs/alcohol or personal issue.
 
Hatuey said:
There won't be any winners or losers when this eventually goes to court. The cop will be fired and his career will be in the gutter whether he was justified or not. The kid won't get a chance to graduate and move on to have a productive life.
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Well he was an arts major...
But besides that, I doubt that the officer would just shoot for the sake of shooting...and at the same time, I find the camera falling off highly highly highly suspicious
 
Fruityfact said:
Well he was an arts major...
But besides that, I doubt that the officer would just shoot for the sake of shooting...and at the same time, I find the camera falling off highly highly highly suspicious
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I'm sure the kid was doing his part in the altercation... provoking and probably got the best of the guy. It's just ****ed up how such incidences often end up in shootings. Provocation equaling death sentence on the spot? There is just something systemically wrong.

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There is also something systemically wrong when authority... the ones with the guns.... can almost NEVER admit wrong doing.
 
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Fruityfact said:
Well he was an arts major...
But besides that, I doubt that the officer would just shoot for the sake of shooting...and at the same time, I find the camera falling off highly highly highly suspicious
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It was climate change.
 
poweRob said:
I'm sure the kid was doing his part in the altercation... provoking and probably got the best of the guy. It's just ****ed up how such incidences often end up in shootings. Provocation equaling death sentence on the spot? There is just something systemically wrong.

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There is also something systemically wrong when authority... the ones with the guns.... can almost NEVER admit wrong doing.
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Well this;

Meanwhile, Redus and Carter were fighting, the university said. Redus managed to get hold of Carter's police baton and started beating on the officer, who drew his gun and fired, it said.
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That's not harmless "provocation", that's assault with a deadly weapon. Is it the college you think that's involved in some cover up?
 
X Factor said:
Well this;



That's not harmless "provocation", that's assault with a deadly weapon. Is it the college you think that's involved in some cover up?
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Says the cops. Witness says the kid sacarcastically said, "Oh, you gonna shoot me now?" Then he shot six times. When a guy pulls a gun and you say that to him... you are not probably beating him at the time. So even if the kid got his baton and started smacking him around with it... when the cop pulled the gun I seriously doubt he continued beating him with a gun pointed at him.
 
This kind of thing always seems to split conservatives. This is where you see the authority loving conservatives split from the actual small government conservatives who have a natural distrust of authority.
 
poweRob said:
This kind of thing always seems to split conservatives. This is where you see the authority loving conservatives split from the actual small government conservatives who have a natural distrust of authority.
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Good point. Conservatives seem to never have a problem with police or military abuse.
 
Montecresto said:
Good point. Conservatives seem to never have a problem with police or military abuse.
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Some do, some don't.

This is where you can tell the true libertarians from the fake ones who are really just Republicans pretending to be liberterian conservatives.

Libertarian conservatives have that natural distrust of authority. Republican conservatives almost always side with authority against the people. It's in their nationalist tendencies.
 
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poweRob said:
This kind of thing always seems to split conservatives. This is where you see the authority loving conservatives split from the actual small government conservatives who have a natural distrust of authority.
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It's true, as with most things, conservatives hold many different opinions unlike liberals who seem to think pretty uniformly. ;) I have respect for the job our law enforcement and military do and no, I don't assume the worst about someone because he wears a badge.
 
X Factor said:
It's true, as with most things, conservatives hold many different opinions unlike liberals who seem to think pretty uniformly. ;) I have respect for the job our law enforcement and military do and no, I don't assume the worst about someone because he wears a badge.
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Inversely you think the worst about someone who doesn't wear the badge it seems.
 
specklebang said:
Care to bet on the outcome?

This has nothing to do with politics and I'm NOT giving you a hard time. But I see how most of these things turn out and the cops take very good care of their own no matter how egregious the behavior.

The camera fell off. Sure. Right.
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I'm in full agreement. It seems fishy to begin with - the part about the camera being glued on seems to be way off. I always thought they were screwed on.
 
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