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    Re: Ga. Man Must Pay $50,000 After Breaking Engagement to Fiancee, Appeals Court Says

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    No need to be snarky. Just because Sangha said it and you repeat it twice, doesn't make it accurate. From the story: "Smith said he believes the trial judge's monetary award was derived from about half the value of the home that Kelley purchased, which was worth around $86,000." If you have other details, I'd be interested to see it.

    Sorry, but that seems like an opinion to me, not a statement from the trial judge. Also, half of $86,000 is not $50,000. The trial judge made a ruling as he determined based on some level agreement between the two civil parties. People can choose to agree or disagree with the opinion (after all, that's what we do here), but that doesn't change the results.
    I wasn't being snarky.

    After reading the article again, I think the award was based on breach of promise, based on this:

    But the Court of Appeals of Georgia ruled on Nov. 22 to uphold the trial court's decision, saying the promise to marry is enforceable and the fact that the couple lived together before and after the marriage proposal is only collateral to the promise to marry.
    I'd say, then, that the monetary damages were based on the value of the house . . . ?

    For the record, I agree with the decision.

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    Re: Ga. Man Must Pay $50,000 After Breaking Engagement to Fiancee, Appeals Court Says

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I wasn't being snarky.

    After reading the article again, I think the award was based on breach of promise, based on this:



    I'd say, then, that the monetary damages were based on the value of the house . . . ?

    For the record, I agree with the decision.
    I suppose it could be a combination of the judge finding for the woman and based on the value of the home, fees incurred in procuring the facilities and services associated with the cancelled wedding could comprise the monetary damages awarded? It is a bit hard to determine based on the information reported so far.

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    Re: Ga. Man Must Pay $50,000 After Breaking Engagement to Fiancee, Appeals Court Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Seward View Post
    I find that I agree with Maggie and Sangha here. People should be free to change their minds and get out of a relationship or engagement. That said I think it is only fair people should also be free to recoup their financial losses when that happens. In this case the couple had the house and some children together, there may be other financial concerns that were not reported on in the article. Weddings are damned expensive affairs there day, well at least the more ostentatious ones are. So it is very easy to imagine many thousands of dollars spent on booking a wedding/reception hall, associated services and fees added to the split on the value on the home.
    What does it for me is that Cooper entered into the engagement in bad faith. If he had been upfront about his own doubts as well as, uh, that little thing about already being married, and she still agreed to leave her job and state for him? I might think a little differently.

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    Re: Ga. Man Must Pay $50,000 After Breaking Engagement to Fiancee, Appeals Court Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    What does it for me is that Cooper entered into the engagement in bad faith. If he had been upfront about his own doubts as well as, uh, that little thing about already being married, and she still agreed to leave her job and state for him? I might think a little differently.
    Yes I would say so as well. I do know that in some divorce cases I have seen where infidelity was involved that can play a big role in damages. And of course wit this one, there is that little thing about already being married.

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    Re: Ga. Man Must Pay $50,000 After Breaking Engagement to Fiancee, Appeals Court Says

    I love when the government rewards idiots. I also can't help to notice that the government has gone out of it's way to make living with someone not worth it.

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    Re: Ga. Man Must Pay $50,000 After Breaking Engagement to Fiancee, Appeals Court Says

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I wasn't being snarky.

    After reading the article again, I think the award was based on breach of promise, based on this:



    I'd say, then, that the monetary damages were based on the value of the house . . . ?

    For the record, I agree with the decision.
    Now we are at semantics. A breach of promise and a breach of contract is a distinction without much of a difference. I too agree with the decision.

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    Re: Ga. Man Must Pay $50,000 After Breaking Engagement to Fiancee, Appeals Court Says

    For the record, I dont support the judge's finding for her. I understand it, completely, or almost at least. From an ethical standpoint, the guy was wrong in so many ways. But she was not forced to stay there. And I see women make really bad decisions this way all the time and that doesnt make it ok. You have to take more responsibility for yourself. Dont have a kid with a guy you're not married to....it's not a guarantee but it protects you & kid more....dont let a man tell you what to do. If you do compromise, dont be a doormat and make sure you do get your side of the deal, dont be stupid and stay with a cheating guy. Dont believe in some fantasy that society sells you. The longer you stay, the more kids you have, the harder it is to leave.

    I dont think she's entitled to anything but the ring....sell that for $10,000...and child support. I dont 'like' that, but I believe it's it legally correct. If they can prove she gave up or put off an education or career at his wishes or to enable him to advance his career, then I can see an amount awarded for that like they do in some divorces but IMO that is not based on 'breach of contract.'
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    Re: Ga. Man Must Pay $50,000 After Breaking Engagement to Fiancee, Appeals Court Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    For the record, I dont support the judge's finding for her. I understand it, completely, or almost at least. From an ethical standpoint, the guy was wrong in so many ways. But she was not forced to stay there. And I see women make really bad decisions this way all the time and that doesnt make it ok. You have to take more responsibility for yourself. Dont have a kid with a guy you're not married to....it's not a guarantee but it protects you & kid more....dont let a man tell you what to do. If you do compromise, dont be a doormat and make sure you do get your side of the deal, dont be stupid and stay with a cheating guy. Dont believe in some fantasy that society sells you. The longer you stay, the more kids you have, the harder it is to leave.

    I dont think she's entitled to anything but the ring....sell that for $10,000...and child support. I dont 'like' that, but I believe it's it legally correct.
    Lol to child support. Can't get away from using the power of the law, can you?

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    Re: Ga. Man Must Pay $50,000 After Breaking Engagement to Fiancee, Appeals Court Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    She was common street trash anyway. She had 2 kids with 2 different baby daddies.

    She was looking for a payday. Her meal ticket bolted for better ass, and she decided to get paid on his wallet.

    If I was him, I'd be plastering naked pics of her online. She deserves nothing less.
    Damn, Dude.

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    Re: Ga. Man Must Pay $50,000 After Breaking Engagement to Fiancee, Appeals Court Says

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    Now we are at semantics. A breach of promise and a breach of contract is a distinction without much of a difference. I too agree with the decision.
    We aren't at semantics. I'm aware they're one in the same. I agree with you. Breach of contract.

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