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    Re: Ga. Man Must Pay $50,000 After Breaking Engagement to Fiancee, Appeals Court Says

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    It seems as though there was a contract as determined by a judge. Isn't that a reasonable role for a judge to arbitrate between two civil parties?
    As Sangha pointed out earlier, if you read the thread, you'll see she was awarded that money as her share of the house -- not for breach of contract.

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    Re: Ga. Man Must Pay $50,000 After Breaking Engagement to Fiancee, Appeals Court Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    ROFLMAO!

    Oh the irony.
    You're not making a whole lot of sense babe.

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    Re: Ga. Man Must Pay $50,000 After Breaking Engagement to Fiancee, Appeals Court Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Yeah, I'm pretty sure that last one went right over his head....some people cant view their own actions (or words) objectively at all.

    It was pretty funny tho, the irony.
    You do realize the second comment was a joke, right? I was making fun of the concept being talked about here.

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    Re: Ga. Man Must Pay $50,000 After Breaking Engagement to Fiancee, Appeals Court Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    What contract? Sorry, but what we are talking about is NOT a contract. A promise or statement to do something is NOT a contract.
    You may reject the idea of an oral contract but clearly this judge did not. That is his role, to make that judgment.

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    Re: Ga. Man Must Pay $50,000 After Breaking Engagement to Fiancee, Appeals Court Says

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    As Sangha pointed out earlier, if you read the thread, you'll see she was awarded that money as her share of the house -- not for breach of contract.
    No need to be snarky. Just because Sangha said it and you repeat it twice, doesn't make it accurate. From the story: "Smith said he believes the trial judge's monetary award was derived from about half the value of the home that Kelley purchased, which was worth around $86,000." If you have other details, I'd be interested to see it.

    Sorry, but that seems like an opinion to me, not a statement from the trial judge. Also, half of $86,000 is not $50,000. The trial judge made a ruling as he determined based on some level agreement between the two civil parties. People can choose to agree or disagree with the opinion (after all, that's what we do here), but that doesn't change the results.

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    Re: Ga. Man Must Pay $50,000 After Breaking Engagement to Fiancee, Appeals Court Says

    Georgia must also not allow palimony suits.

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    Re: Ga. Man Must Pay $50,000 After Breaking Engagement to Fiancee, Appeals Court Says

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    No need to be snarky. Just because Sangha said it and you repeat it twice, doesn't make it accurate. From the story: "Smith said he believes the trial judge's monetary award was derived from about half the value of the home that Kelley purchased, which was worth around $86,000." If you have other details, I'd be interested to see it.

    Sorry, but that seems like an opinion to me, not a statement from the trial judge. Also, half of $86,000 is not $50,000. The trial judge made a ruling as he determined based on some level agreement between the two civil parties. People can choose to agree or disagree with the opinion (after all, that's what we do here), but that doesn't change the results.
    Half of $86K is $43K, leaving $7K of the $50K award for legal fees and other compensation.

    As far as opinion goes, it is just as much an opinion to say that the award was granted merely for breaking his promise to get married. But for some reason, this being "just an opinion" hasn't stopped anyone from stating it as if it were a fact.
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    Re: Ga. Man Must Pay $50,000 After Breaking Engagement to Fiancee, Appeals Court Says

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    You may reject the idea of an oral contract but clearly this judge did not. That is his role, to make that judgment.

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    The judge couldn't disagree with the concept anyway, but that doesn't mean that element of the law should exist or that it actually resembles any sort of contract.

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    Re: Ga. Man Must Pay $50,000 After Breaking Engagement to Fiancee, Appeals Court Says

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Georgia must also not allow palimony suits.
    The following states have Palimony laws.

    Alaska, Arizona, Connecitcut, Florida, Hawaii, Indiana, Iowa, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Mississippi, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Oregon, Pennysylviana, Texas, Washington, Wisconsin and Wyoming.

    So no. Looks like there is twenty-three states that need to get rid of palimony laws.

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    Re: Ga. Man Must Pay $50,000 After Breaking Engagement to Fiancee, Appeals Court Says

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    No need to be snarky. Just because Sangha said it and you repeat it twice, doesn't make it accurate. From the story: "Smith said he believes the trial judge's monetary award was derived from about half the value of the home that Kelley purchased, which was worth around $86,000." If you have other details, I'd be interested to see it.

    Sorry, but that seems like an opinion to me, not a statement from the trial judge. Also, half of $86,000 is not $50,000. The trial judge made a ruling as he determined based on some level agreement between the two civil parties. People can choose to agree or disagree with the opinion (after all, that's what we do here), but that doesn't change the results.
    I find that I agree with Maggie and Sangha here. People should be free to change their minds and get out of a relationship or engagement. That said I think it is only fair people should also be free to recoup their financial losses when that happens. In this case the couple had the house and some children together, there may be other financial concerns that were not reported on in the article. Weddings are damned expensive affairs there day, well at least the more ostentatious ones are. So it is very easy to imagine many thousands of dollars spent on booking a wedding/reception hall, associated services and fees added to the split on the value on the home.

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