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    Re: Protesters in Kiev Topple Lenin Statue as Rallies Grow

    Quote Originally Posted by Fallenangel View Post
    Can you link to those polls please, as your second link requires subscription to view the article.

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    Hm, it shouldn't.

    https://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukr...flavour=mobile

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    Re: Protesters in Kiev Topple Lenin Statue as Rallies Grow

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    Thank you, but never-mind, I just ended-up Googling it.

    The poll was conducted among only 1000 respondents age 16+...not really an adequate sample for a country with 40+ million population.
    Moreover, the polling company fails to mention which cities and regions they conducted the poll in...but they still somehow make the claim that the poll is an accurate representation of age, region, etc... of Ukraine's population?!?

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    Re: Protesters in Kiev Topple Lenin Statue as Rallies Grow

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    What makes you say that? Most major news outlets are reporting hundreds of thousands on the streets in Kiev while polls show a strong plurality favor the EU pact (45%) while strongly opposing a similar association with Russia and the Kazakh/Belarus customs union (only 14% support it). You appear to be incorrect.

    BBC News - Ukraine's capital Kiev gripped by huge pro-EU demonstration
    Poll Finds Ukrainians Favor EU Pact - WSJ.com

    Edit: The AP is estimating a crowd of at least 500,000.
    She was only off 500x on her estimate of the crowd.

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    Re: Protesters in Kiev Topple Lenin Statue as Rallies Grow

    Quote Originally Posted by Fallenangel View Post
    Thank you, but never-mind, I just ended-up Googling it.

    The poll was conducted among only 1000 respondents of 16+...not really an adequate sample for a country with 40+ million population.
    Moreover, the polling company fails to mention which cities and regions they conducted the poll in...but they still somehow make the claim that the poll is an accurate representation of age, region, etc... of Ukraine's population?!?

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    Fair enough what polls have you seen that suggest otherwise?

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    Re: Protesters in Kiev Topple Lenin Statue as Rallies Grow

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Fair enough what polls have you seen that suggest otherwise?
    None.
    That is why I am asking to see the original polling data every time someone posts or talks to me about these numbers.

    The 40-50% support polls I've seen so far are either being conducted by pro-Western centers/ have absolutely tiny sample sizes, or just have other issues - like failing to mention in which regions/cities the polls were conducted.

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    Re: Protesters in Kiev Topple Lenin Statue as Rallies Grow

    State security is investigating a possible coup by opposition groups who are calling for snap elections.
    Ukraine security services investigate opposition for alleged coup plot - FT.com

    More on the takedown of the Lenin statue.
    Lenin monument toppled as pro-EU protests rage in Kiev

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    Re: Protesters in Kiev Topple Lenin Statue as Rallies Grow

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    'Coz who'd ever actually want to smash a statue of Lenin, right?
    I wouldnt. But ok.


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    Re: Protesters in Kiev Topple Lenin Statue as Rallies Grow

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    I wouldnt. But ok.
    Its only a plane ticket away, comrade. Utopia can't be much further!

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    Re: Protesters in Kiev Topple Lenin Statue as Rallies Grow

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Its only a plane ticket away, comrade. Utopia can't be much further!
    Lenin didnt believe in utopia neither do i


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    Re: Protesters in Kiev Topple Lenin Statue as Rallies Grow

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Lenin didnt believe in utopia neither do i
    He did during the revolution. JSTOR: An Error Occurred Setting Your User Cookie

    Political fervor, no doubt.

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