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    Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647]

    The ruling in is. Chalk another one up for the good guys
    Colorado judge: Bakery owner discriminated against gay couple - Washington TimesA Colorado judge ruled Friday against a bakery owner who refused to prepare a cake for a gay couple’s wedding reception.

    Administrative Law Judge Robert N. Spencer ordered Jack Phillips, owner of Masterpiece Cakeshop in Lakewood, to “cease and desist from discriminating against complainants and other same-sex couples by refusing to sell them wedding cakes or any other product [he] would provide to heterosexual couples.”


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    Another ruling that bigotry will no longer be tolerated in America. If this baker is truly concerned about his religious beliefs....perhaps he should start by trying to be more "Christ-like" and try living the principles that Jesus Christ taught.
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    re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Gay Equality is something I have advocated and stood up for since my youth, pre-Stonewall.

    But I would be very careful about buying edibles from someone who despised me. Indeed, I would not want to benefit them financially, nor would I trust them to not "flavor" my food.

    A hollow victory I'm afraid. And a rather weak opponent as well.

    Please read my entire post before responding instead of just reacting.

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    Is sexual-orientation protected in Colorado?
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    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    Gay Equality is something I have advocated and stood up for since my youth, pre-Stonewall.

    But I would be very careful about buying edibles from someone who despised me. Indeed, I would not want to benefit them financially, nor would I trust them to not "flavor" my food.

    A hollow victory I'm afraid. And a rather weak opponent as well.

    Please read my entire post before responding instead of just reacting.
    I completely understand where you are coming from...but we have to fight bigotry in all cases. The same argument could have been made regarding the lunch counters that refused to serve blacks in the 50-60's. Personally, I wouldn't want to patronize a business that despised me or was bigoted...I wouldn't want to give them any profit. But if the sit-ins hadn't occurred and we allowed bigoted business owners to practice their bigotry....we likely would not have advanced as far as we have in the fight against injustice.
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    re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    The bigotry lies in forcing someone to go against their beliefs via their private business to provide you with a service for something they believe is wrong.

    This goes beyond gay "rights" and gets into bullying through the courts.
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    re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I completely understand where you are coming from...but we have to fight bigotry in all cases. The same argument could have been made regarding the lunch counters that refused to serve blacks in the 50-60's. Personally, I wouldn't want to patronize a business that despised me or was bigoted...I wouldn't want to give them any profit. But if the sit-ins hadn't occurred and we allowed bigoted business owners to practice their bigotry....we likely would not have advanced as far as we have in the fight against injustice.
    Well, I happen to agree with you. Be careful is all I'm saying.

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    re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    The bigotry lies in forcing someone to go against their beliefs via their private business to provide you with a service for something they believe is wrong.

    This goes beyond gay "rights" and gets into bullying through the courts.
    Businesses that hold out to the public don't have the same rights as a private individual. Sorry this bothers you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    The bigotry lies in forcing someone to go against their beliefs via their private business to provide you with a service for something they believe is wrong.

    This goes beyond gay "rights" and gets into bullying through the courts.

    Was it "bullying" digs...to force bigoted restaurant owners into serving blacks? Bigotry in the name of religion is still bigotry.
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    re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    The bigotry lies in forcing someone to go against their beliefs via their private business to provide you with a service for something they believe is wrong.

    This goes beyond gay "rights" and gets into bullying through the courts.
    BTW..Digs......if this baker REALLY wanted to show he was a "Christian" he should start by demonstrating it. Actions speak louder than words. Jesus himself NEVER engaged in bigotry like this guy.
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    re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    BTW..Digs......if this baker REALLY wanted to show he was a "Christian" he should start by demonstrating it. Actions speak louder than words. Jesus himself NEVER engaged in bigotry like this guy.
    Not a bible scholar or anything here, nor even a Christian, but do stand up for other than just gay people's rights...

    So, if I remember correctly what I was long ago taught, Jesus threw the money changers out of the temple right? So he was not just for letting sins continue unabated. The idea, perhaps, was love the sinner not the sin... and so, do you genuinely believe that Jesus would he have, as a carpenter, say, built a wedding chapel just for homosexuals? Or be the one that actually wedded them, do you think? I think the bakery folks would/could treat their homosexual customers coming in to buy bread or a doughnut as normal customers just as they would anyone else...but to bake a wedding cake special... in other words help somebody in accomplishing their continued sinning... is that something Jesus would have advocated, do you really think? Truly?

    Try your best to be intellectually honest here... that is what Jesus would do, yanno?
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