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Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647]

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Grant said:
How would you compare two Gays not being offered a wedding cake in one establishment with the centuries long struggle, including a Civil War and murders, for the rights of Black people?
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I'm sure the bigots of Rosa Parks day thought that she was being just as ridiculous. The bottom line is Bigotry is Bigotry is Bigotry and sometimes you have to stand up against it.
 
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disneydude said:
I'm sure the bigots of Rosa Parks day thought that she was being just as ridiculous. The bottom line is Bigotry is Bigotry is Bigotry and sometimes you have to stand up against it.
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What stand are you taking against bigotry? Anything more than writing in to a debate forum?
 
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Grant said:
What stand are you taking against bigotry? Anything more than writing in to a debate forum?
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Reading comprehension problem? I didn't say that I, personally, am taking a stand against bigory. I was saying that the men who stood up to the bigoted Bakery owner and Rosa Parks, among others, stood up against bigotry.
 
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disneydude said:
I didn't say that they were both on the same level.....but to call comparisons ridiculous...is......well.....ridiculous. They are both examples of people standing up against bigotry.
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You think that all the Black people faced throughout their history was 'bigotry'? That what they suffering was similar to not being sold a wedding cake at one private business establishment? It seems that every social slight can now be compared to what went on against Black people for the previous thousand years. It seems that leftists are not shy about trivializing the struggles and the history of Black people in order to make a much smaller point.
 
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disneydude said:
Reading comprehension problem? I didn't say that I, personally, am taking a stand against bigory. I was saying that the men who stood up to the bigoted Bakery owner and Rosa Parks, among others, stood up against bigotry.
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Yes, yes, what Rosa Parks did was the same as two Gays ordering a wedding cake and going to the courts when the baker refused. We get it.
 
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disneydude said:
Reading comprehension problem? I didn't say that I, personally, am taking a stand against bigory. I was saying that the men who stood up to the bigoted Bakery owner and Rosa Parks, among others, stood up against bigotry.
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No, they went to court, an option not easily available when Rosa Parks took her famous bus ride.
 
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sangha said:
We;re not talking about Iran. Try to keep up
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We\re talking about prejudice against Gays, and the legalization of their murder, and Muslims are the center of such odious behavior. Have you ever spoken up against their bigotry?
 
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disneydude said:
Reading comprehension problem? I didn't say that I, personally, am taking a stand against bigory. I was saying that the men who stood up to the bigoted Bakery owner and Rosa Parks, among others, stood up against bigotry.
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Oh so you are all for others taking a stand against bigotry but decline to do it yourself. What the Gay couple did was go to the courts, which is hardly a risky stand to take.
 
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Grant said:
We\re talking about prejudice against Gays, and the legalization of their murder, and Muslims are the center of such odious behavior. Have you ever spoken up against their bigotry?
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No, we're talking about a case that took place in the US.
 
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Grant said:
You think that all the Black people faced throughout their history was 'bigotry'? That what they suffering was similar to not being sold a wedding cake at one private business establishment? It seems that every social slight can now be compared to what went on against Black people for the previous thousand years. It seems that leftists are not shy about trivializing the struggles and the history of Black people in order to make a much smaller point.
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Blah blah blah....do you really believe that this is just about a wedding cake? No one is saying the plight of gays in history is the same as blacks. But there are common elements that involve fighting against discrimination and bigotry. Most black people get it and aren't offended because they don't buy into the rhetoric of the right-wing to drive the wedge.
 
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disneydude said:
You obviously have no understanding of the law. People cannot "surely open a business and choose who they will serve".....that is against the law. There is nothing in this ruling that is in conflict with the Constitution, in fact, just the opposite. People are free to have their own belief systems....what they are not free to do is use it as a shield to promote their bigotry. When you open a business, you have to comply with the laws of this country. Don't want to do that? Then don't open a business....simple as that.
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Oh but they can open a business in this country solely catering to private organizations. There is no law against that. A baker can still have a bakery providing an assortment of all occasion cakes, and a showcase of pastries he/she will sell to anyone. He/she however in his store does not have to offer wedding cakes to the public but can through private organizations that share his beliefs in marriage cater to them exclusively. Same with the photographer. He/she can offer their services for school pictures, family portraits, glamour shots etc but not offer their services for weddings. But through private organizations that share his beliefs in marriage he/she can cater to them exclusively that respect his personal religious beliefs. The same goes for the wedding planner, the caterer. In fact, I see in the very near future faith based organizations will only provide matrimony services to members of their organizations exclusively. And within those organizations, the members that are the photographers, the baker, the caterer, the printer of invitations, will form networks to provide all the services needed. Cheers! They will overcome your bigotry toward their religious beliefs.
 
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sangha said:
No, we're talking about a case that took place in the US.
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Okay, so you have never spoken up against the bigotry Gays face in Muslim countries despite them facing the penalty of death. Instead your concern is the denial of a wedding cake being sold for a wedding.

Perhaps you can broaden your efforts a little if your interest is genuinely honest about fighting prejudices against Gay people.
 
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Grant said:
Okay, so you have never spoken up against the bigotry Gays face in Muslim countries
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OK, so you're willing to make stuff up.
 
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disneydude said:
Blah blah blah....do you really believe that this is just about a wedding cake? No one is saying the plight of gays in history is the same as blacks. But there are common elements that involve fighting against discrimination and bigotry. Most black people get it and aren't offended because they don't buy into the rhetoric of the right-wing to drive the wedge.
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Oh its all about 'wings' again, is it? Have we now moved on from Blacks?
 
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sangha said:
OK, so you're willing to make stuff up.
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Did you not read the links I sent? Perhaps you should explain where I "make stuff up"?
 
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Grant said:
Oh its all about 'wings' again, is it? Have we now moved on from Blacks?
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Nope....just pointing out that right-wingers such as yourself, always attempt to turn black people against gays by crying "Can you believe this!!!! Gays are trying to compare their treatment to yours.....aren't you OUTRAGED????"....LOL....Just like Republicans trying to figure out why black people don't vote for Republicans. The fact is, black people are just as smart as anyone else in this country. They understand that people aren't saying the two plights are exactly the same...and they understand that bigotry is wrong....so good luck trying to drive that wedge. Didn't work the first 1485 times you tried it, maybe the 1486 time is the key!
 
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sangha said:
They can, but they didn't
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But in the near future they will if it continues being forced into court for saying no.
 
Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

Grant said:
Okay, so you have never spoken up against the bigotry Gays face in Muslim countries despite them facing the penalty of death. Instead your concern is the denial of a wedding cake being sold for a wedding.

Perhaps you can broaden your efforts a little if your interest is genuinely honest about fighting prejudices against Gay people.
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Moderator's Warning:
How gays are treated in Muslim countries is not the topic of this thread. Please return to addressing the OP.
 
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disneydude said:
Nope....just pointing out that right-wingers such as yourself, always attempt to turn black people against gays by crying "Can you believe this!!!! Gays are trying to compare their treatment to yours.....aren't you OUTRAGED????"....LOL....Just like Republicans trying to figure out why black people don't vote for Republicans. The fact is, black people are just as smart as anyone else in this country. They understand that people aren't saying the two plights are exactly the same...and they understand that bigotry is wrong....so good luck trying to drive that wedge. Didn't work the first 1485 times you tried it, maybe the 1486 time is the key!
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When making these sorts of charges its always helpful if you provide appropriate links.
 
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vesper said:
But in the near future they will if it continues being forced into court for saying no.
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If they want to limit their profits by limiting their customer base, then good for them

I hope all the bigots in this country limit their business and leave the majority of demand available for decent moral people to fulfill
 
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sangha said:
If they want to limit their profits by limiting their customer base, then good for them

I hope all the bigots in this country limit their business and leave the majority of demand available for decent moral people to fulfill
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There are some things to many that are more important than money. Being at peace with one's conscience trumps making a buck for many good folks. You want them to offer their talents toward something that goes against what their God teaches. I find it pretty brazen of anyone to engage in violating another in that way. Since most marriages still occur in churches, synagogues, mosques, I don't see these people with strong convictions of faith being hurt one bit as far as revenue.
 
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