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Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647]

Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

Out of curiosity, does the situation change if the couple selected this particular baker because they figured he'd refuse them? What if their intent was to make publicity for their cause? Is that discriminating against the baker?
 
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If you understood equal rights you would know that doesn't matter.

another post about ME and not the topic.
sorry facts, rights, laws, ordinances court cases and court precedent all disagree with your OPINION and make it factually wrong, it does matter and your opinion doesnt change that fact.

If you disagree simply provide the fact that proves all the things mentioned above wrong.

What do you have that FACTUALLY proves all the facts, rights, laws, ordinances court cases and court precedent that say it does matter wrong?
 
Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

Out of curiosity, does the situation change if the couple selected this particular baker because they figured he'd refuse them? What if their intent was to make publicity for their cause? Is that discriminating against the baker?

pertaining strictly to law, no that doesn't matter, laws were still broken

peoples personal opinion about the customers may change one way or another but only one of them broke the law.
 
Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

pertaining strictly to law, no that doesn't matter, laws were still broken

peoples personal opinion about the customers may change one way or another but only one of them broke the law.

If they were doing this to make a statement and he refused them was he still breaking the law?
 
Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

If they were doing this to make a statement and he refused them was he still breaking the law?

again more details needed

if his reason for refusing service breaks the law(discrimianiton based on sexual orentation) it doesnt matter what they motivation was
 
Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292]

The ruling in is. Chalk another one up for the good guys

I'm all for gay marriage and equality of opportunity and such, but sorry, the judge got this one VERY wrong. What the judge did was set a precedent that businesses have no right to decide what business they do or do not do. All you need is one agenda drive asshole to bitch about any business not doing what they want them to do, and bam, lawsuit. Idiotic. That is not America, pure and simple.
 
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I'm all for gay marriage and equality of opportunity and such, but sorry, the judge got this one VERY wrong. What the judge did was set a precedent that businesses have no right to decide what business they do or do not do. All you need is one agenda drive asshole to bitch about any business not doing what they want them to do, and bam, lawsuit. Idiotic. That is not America, pure and simple.

100% false no new precedent was set, this was based of off discrimination laws and equality its actually america at its finest, protecting rights and stopping infringement.

the precedent is protecting ILLEGAL discrimination and in Colorado thats:


Employers are not allowed to discriminate in employment based upon any of the following factors:

Race
Color
National Origin
Ancestry
Creed
Religion
Sex
Age
Physical Disability
Mental Disability
Marriage to a Co-Worker (subject to specific circumstances)
Sexual Orientation

so no NEW precedent was set, and no, somebody simply saying they are upset because the business doesnt do what they want doesnt fit.
 
Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

1.) its not thrown in your face
2.) good your not supposed to care its not your businesses what other Americans do as long as they arent breaking the law or infringing on your rights, good job!
3.) they already do
4.) your opinion is meanignless its worthy just like race, religion, gender etc

Also your opinion and also meaningless
 
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Have you seen gays having sex on the streets? I havent. Nor have I seen straight people doing so.

Sex has as much to do with gay relationships as it does with straight ones....it is only one part...and the longer the relationship, the less it matters (generally).

Do you look at straight couples and imagine them having sex? Is that what you think when you look at them? About their sex lives? Yes? (ew). No? Then why do so with gay couples?

So are you saying being a homosexual has nothing to do with what they do in their bedrooms? Ok maybe it is on the couch.

The point is, is that I wouldn't know most people are gay unless they tell me they are.

This couple, I guess, had nothing better to do than to sue a private business to force them to make their product for people they don't want to make it for.

Isn't it wonderful the lazy life people lead these days allows this much time to do things like this?
 
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Also your opinion and also meaningless

well since it factually is protected i wasnt stating my opinion so in that regard you are wrong, i was pointing out a fact :shrug:

but other than that, yes my opinion like yours is meaningless when it comes to equal rights
 
Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

Out of curiosity, does the situation change if the couple selected this particular baker because they figured he'd refuse them? What if their intent was to make publicity for their cause? Is that discriminating against the baker?

Policing people's beliefs is perfectly leagal, now.
 
Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

Policing people's beliefs is perfectly leagal, now.

his beliefs are intact and havent changed and he is free to have them :shrug:
 
Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

I think the issue the bakery owner had against the gay couple is the warm places they chose for their loaves to rise. :mrgreen:
 
Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

I think the issue the bakery owner had against the gay couple is the warm places they chose for their loaves to rise. :mrgreen:

id guess you are probably right, he doesnt want his icing mixed with theirs . . . wait is that too much?
 
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Have you seen gays having sex on the streets? I havent. Nor have I seen straight people doing so.

Sex has as much to do with gay relationships as it does with straight ones....it is only one part...and the longer the relationship, the less it matters (generally).

Do you look at straight couples and imagine them having sex? Is that what you think when you look at them? About their sex lives? Yes? (ew). No? Then why do so with gay couples?

So are you saying being a homosexual has nothing to do with what they do in their bedrooms? Ok maybe it is on the couch.

The point is, is that I wouldn't know most people are gay unless they tell me they are.

This couple, I guess, had nothing better to do than to sue a private business to force them to make their product for people they don't want to make it for.

Isn't it wonderful the lazy life people lead these days allows this much time to do things like this?

If you read the bold the first time, you needn't ask your question. And gays are gay whether they ever have sex or not.

And I'm glad you didnt run into Rosa Parks on the bus that day. That lazy bitch could have moved a little further back on the bus too.
 
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Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292]

OK im sorry but this is just stupid. Im not saying its right that he is discriminating, but segregation happens all over the place every day. Just pick another bakery instead of sueing the guy for it. Half the time i thing they just want the money and barely give a crap about the segregation.

That is a question I have.

Did the suing couple receive any money in this suit.
 
Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

again more details needed

if his reason for refusing service breaks the law(discrimianiton based on sexual orentation) it doesnt matter what they motivation was

Did this couple have a wedding cake at their wedding?
 
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If you read the bold the first time, you needn't ask your question. And gays are gay whether they ever have sex or not.

And I'm glad you didnt run into Rosa Parks on the bus that day. That lazy bitch could have moved a little further back on the bus too.

Don't make assumptions when you know nothing about what you speak.

Sexual orientation has nothing to do with race and this is not the new civil rights movement.

Again did this couple have a cake at their wedding?
 
Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

Did this couple have a wedding cake at their wedding?

doesnt matter
 
Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292]

Employers are not allowed to discriminate in employment .

The people that sued were not employees, so you are 110% off base in EVERYTHING you just wrote. They wanted a bakery to make a cake, the bakery said no. That's called freedom, to force the bakery (or any business) to do business they do not want to is government force at it's worst.
 
Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

doesnt matter

Yes it does.

It shows they didn't need to sue anybody because no harm was done.

I hope this couple doesn't think they changed the world.
 
Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

Policing people's beliefs is perfectly leagal, now.




The anti-discrimination law in Colorado is not about policing anyone's beliefs.

Its about requiring equal treatment for all.

Real Christians shouldn't have a problem with that idea.
 
Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292]

1.)The people that sued were not employees, so you are 110% off base in EVERYTHING you just wrote.
2.) They wanted a bakery to make a cake, the bakery said no. That's called freedom
3.) to force the bakery (or any business) to do business they do not want to is government force at it's worst.

1.)wrong again i simply quoted the wrong prefix, that is factually Colorado law whether you like it to not and it is about businesses serving the public. :shrug:
2.) nope its called illegal discrimination as the facts and judge prove
3.) nope the bakery isnt being forced to do business the bakery isnt being allowed to conduct itself ILLEGALLY huge difference it actually government success. Im very happy they protected the rights of my fellow americans and didnt allow the owner do break the law and infringe on others rights.
 
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Don't make assumptions when you know nothing about what you speak.

Sexual orientation has nothing to do with race and this is not the new civil rights movement.

Again did this couple have a cake at their wedding?

It is indeed about civil rights...you are born with your sexual orientation as well.

And didnt Rosa Parks always get a seat on the bus?
 
Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

1.)Yes it does.

2.)It shows they didn't need to sue anybody because no harm was done.

3.) I hope this couple doesn't think they changed the world.

1.) nope factually does not, in fact after the couple was illegal discriminated against they could have decided to not even get married, the law was still broken by the owner so you are factually wrong as the ruling proves

2.) factually wrong again as the judges ruling points out

3.) couldtn tell you what they think but all they did is turn in a criminal
 
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