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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Really? My arguments are so piss poor and yours are by all means stellar examples of justice ! Yeah right.
    I do not see any form of sexual activity seeking rights that redefines the traditional definition of marriage worthy of violating and at the expense of other's rights, including property and religious freedom and to be in violation of the first amendment.
    good because nothing you just said is actually happening
    nothing and if you disagree simply factually prove it, its not happening

    facts defeat your post again
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    and what arguments/precedence factually translate between the two and can only be said of equal rights for gay, please share with us
    I don't need to share another thing with you, just stay tuned what will be the aftermath of what you sought in the name of discrimination.

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Just in case some people forget.

    In the United States, the religious civil liberties are guaranteed by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution:

    The First Amendment is as follows.

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
    This baker was clearly exercising his First Amendment rights.

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    I don't need to share another thing with you, just stay tuned what will be the aftermath of what you sought in the name of discrimination.
    translation: you can defend your factually wrong statement, we knew this already. Let us know when you can provide any facts/links that support the false claims you posted.
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    You really don't have a clue, do you?

    The baker had no problem making wedding cakes. If a baker makes wedding cakes for some customers, then he can't refuse to make wedding cakes for others on the basis or race, gender, sexual orientation, etc

    With regards to penis cakes, if a baker does not make penis cakes for anyone, then the baker can not be forced to make penis cakes for anyone. If the baker does make penis cakes for some people, then the baker can't refuse to make penis cakes for some people on the basis of race, sex, gender, sexual orientation, etc.
    What you fail to recognize both instances were the result of moral judgment directly related to their moral conscience. But folks like you in states that have allowed "gay rights" to trample religious freedoms will find new ways around the laws and who knows the jerkoffs who live in those states may wake up some day and vote to change it all.

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Really? My arguments are so piss poor and yours are by all means stellar examples of justice ! Yeah right.
    I'll give you a shot. Tell me all your arguments against incest marriages besides "well the gays can't do it." It seems to me that you are saying YOU can't think of any arguments against incest marriages if same sex marriage is made legal. I would love for you to prove me wrong.
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    translation: you can defend your factually wrong statement, we knew this already. Let us know when you can provide any facts/links that support the false claims you posted.
    My factually wrong statement? according to whom, you and every supporter of forcing others to comply to discrimination laws that violate others their moral conscience? What a joke!

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    1.)What you fail to recognize both instances were the result of moral judgment directly related to their moral conscience.
    2.)But folks like you in states that have allowed "gay rights" to trample religious freedoms will find new ways around the laws and who knows the jerkoffs who live in those states may wake up some day and vote to change it all.
    1.) which are meaningless when breaking the law and infringing on the rights of others, 100% meaningless
    2.) as already factually proven no rights were trampled

    facts defeat your post again
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Really? Where does it say that? The baker draws the line at wedding cakes for Gays because he supports marriage as being between a man and a woman. This is freedom of religion. They are welcome to go elsewhere to get a cake.
    Where does it say that?

    It's called "the law"

    And baking a cake is not a religious practice and is not protected by the law


    Which law are you referring to here? Once he makes a penis cake he's hooked on providing penis cakes for life??
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    Is english a second language for you? If a baker provides a product, like penis cakes, then they can not refuse to produce a penis cakes based on the customers sex, gender, sexual orientation, race, etc

    Which word is giving you a problem here?
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    What you fail to recognize both instances were the result of moral judgment directly related to their moral conscience. But folks like you in states that have allowed "gay rights" to trample religious freedoms will find new ways around the laws and who knows the jerkoffs who live in those states may wake up some day and vote to change it all.
    If this case ever gets to the Supreme Court, and the Constitution is followed, then the baker would obviously win. The Constitution was not designed to follow the fashions of the day.

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