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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    The he you refer to is a "she". And because I brought up pediphiles in the same sentence with homosexuals and incest you find that offensive because you are gay. It wasn't to offend you or any other gay but to point out that since the redefining of marriage, all forms of sexuality will be challenged in the future. And some of them that supported gay marriage will not be willing to support others. And because they found it fitting to go after those who did not support gay marriage, by forcing them under "discrimination laws" to comply, What will they do when some judge decides discrimination of incest is wrong using the same arguments the gay community has used to support their argument?
    all factually 100% false
    they are legally, intellectually and factually not the same thing , this fact will never change
    also there is no force

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    LOL....so now the bigots are the ones being oppressed? Wow.....nice attempt at turning the tables. Its like the racists who try to claim that those pointing out their racism are really the racists....too funny.
    Someone who believes marriage is between a man and a woman is a bigot?

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    all factually 100% false
    they are legally, intellectually and factually not the same thing , this fact will never change
    also there is no force

    facts prove this post wrong again
    So you keep regurgitating, doesn't make it true either. Put up something or else shut the.........

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    There are things that are protected under the anti-discrimination laws. Those are not nearly as extensive as general public taste and individuality.

    There's really no support for taking a moral position and hiding it under a religious belief. Because as I pointed out, if you were strictly follow your religious beliefs, you couldnt serve many people....a Catholic baker would not bake a wedding cake for someone getting remarried. You would not bake a cake for a barmitzpha. It's selective....and that's hypocritical IMO.

    THere are many people I'd want to turn away, like adulterers. People that beat their kids or animals, goth people. But business isnt about making those moral judgements on your customers. And to hide behind religion to do it is cowardice and hypocritical IMO.
    Who is hiding behind religion in this case? What evidence do you have of that?

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    What will they do when some judge decides discrimination of incest is wrong using the same arguments the gay community has used to support their argument?
    What this tells me is...

    1. You don't know the arguments for same sex marriage. You assume you do. I can certainly tell you that "consent" is a part of the argument for same sex marriage. Please commit that to memory.

    2. Your arguments against incest are so piss poor that the best you can come up with against it is "well the gays cannot get married."

    3. You still will not simply state, "I believe homosexuality is not comparable to pedophilia."
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Being full of **** and not being able to discern the consequences of laws passed is truly devastating for the rest of us. Because you were so willing to open the door, over emotion or some political correct thinking, you have paved the way for just about anything to be seen as a discrimination in regard to business owners and how they treat their customers. If a business owner denies a gay couple a friggin wedding cake on moral conscience, then the asshole that wants a erected penis on his cake has the same rights to file discrimination against anyone who does not want to provide him/her with what they want. Period.
    You really don't have a clue, do you?

    The baker had no problem making wedding cakes. If a baker makes wedding cakes for some customers, then he can't refuse to make wedding cakes for others on the basis or race, gender, sexual orientation, etc

    With regards to penis cakes, if a baker does not make penis cakes for anyone, then the baker can not be forced to make penis cakes for anyone. If the baker does make penis cakes for some people, then the baker can't refuse to make penis cakes for some people on the basis of race, sex, gender, sexual orientation, etc.
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    So you keep regurgitating, doesn't make it true either. Put up something or else shut the.........
    translation: another dodge

    nobody believe the lie you just posted, we have facts on are side remind us what you have again supporting your posts?

    Now when you are ready, please answer this question

    do you think homo/hetero-sexuality is comparable to child rape?
    do you know what illegal discrimination is? if yes explain it

    then after that provided any facts that support your already proven wrong statement that "denying to make a penis cake is legally the same as denying blacks, women, gays based on those things alone etc service."

    we will be waiting


    FACTS:
    denying to make a penis cake is factually not legally the same thing as denying gays service
    homo/hetero sexuality they are legally, intellectually and factually not the same thing


    facts prove your post wrong again
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    What will they do when some judge decides discrimination of incest is wrong using the same arguments the gay community has used to support their argument?
    and what arguments/precedence factually translate between the two and can only be said of equal rights for gay, please share with us
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    What this tells me is...

    1. You don't know the arguments for same sex marriage. You assume you do. I can certainly tell you that "consent" is a part of the argument for same sex marriage. Please commit that to memory.

    2. Your arguments against incest are so piss poor that the best you can come up with against it is "well the gays cannot get married."

    3. You still will not simply state, "I believe homosexuality is not comparable to incest."
    Really? My arguments are so piss poor and yours are by all means stellar examples of justice ! Yeah right.
    I do not see any form of sexual activity seeking rights that redefines the traditional definition of marriage worthy of violating at the expense of other's rights, including property and religious freedom and to be in violation of the first amendment.

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    You really don't have a clue, do you?The baker had no problem making wedding cakes. If a baker makes wedding cakes for some customers, then he can't refuse to make wedding cakes for others on the basis or race, gender, sexual orientation, etc
    Really? Where does it say that? The baker draws the line at wedding cakes for Gays because he supports marriage as being between a man and a woman. This is freedom of religion. They are welcome to go elsewhere to get a cake.

    With regards to penis cakes, if a baker does not make penis cakes for anyone, then the baker can not be forced to make penis cakes for anyone. If the baker does make penis cakes for some people, then the baker can't refuse to make penis cakes for some people on the basis of race, sex, gender, sexual orientation, etc.
    Which law are you referring to here? Once he makes a penis cake he's hooked on providing penis cakes for life??

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