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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    The government protects our rights... and that is pretty clear here. Protecting the rights of the discriminated.
    I guess it depends on who you think is being discriminated against. Those who have decided that gay rights trump religious freedom means the one who is denied the ability to live out his moral convictions is the one being discriminated against.

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    The people in some states allow gay rights to trump religious freedoms. Gotcha !
    Why is it trumping? No one says one is more important than the other, just that one must comply with the law. Anti-discrimination laws are the law of the land and every business knows it. Personally, I think most people like the business in this story are being selective in their 'offense,' as I listed a host of other similar....and silly prejudices that a religious business owner could attempt to employ...but (nearly) all CHOOSE NOT TO.

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I find it quite hilarious how many so called "religion" advocates are fighting so hard to engage in their discrimination and bigotry. If they spent even 1/2 the energy just trying to be more "Christ-like" or spending time actually studying the teachings of Christ.....they would be much better off.
    I think it's pretty hilarious that you guys believe in privileges and yet call them rights. Guess where the term human rights comes from?

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Then I suppose you wouldn't have a problem if I passed a law giving people a claim to your house or your body. Just so you know, I expect you to provide them services that you have provided other people. I hope you don't feel the need to discriminate.
    I am sorry, but I was not aware my body was a business? I was not aware that my house was a business? I do not rent out my body or my house or provide any commercial service. What you suggest is ridiculous because we were talking about businesses and nothing else.

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    Law doesn't change peoples attitudes towards whatever it is acting on. Forcing someone to comply to something can never dream of changing how people feel towards it. People must decide on their own to change, just like society can only ever hope to change itself. Law can make people comply with the use of threats and force, but it has no ability to change peoples attitudes.
    No, sadly laws do not change the attitudes of idiotic bigots. Forcing bigots to not discriminate might not be the ideal situation but allowing them to discriminate with no consequences is even less ideal, to be honest allowing that is almost unthinkable IMHO.

    People have to decide for themselves, but if they own a business that sells can bakes cakes then that business does not have the right to deny service or discriminate.
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I think it's pretty hilarious that you guys believe in privileges and yet call them rights. Guess where the term human rights comes from?
    You obviously cannot distinguish between them. Then again...somewhere you believe there is a "natural right" to discriminate. I find that absolutely hilarious.
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I find it quite hilarious how many so called "religion" advocates are fighting so hard to engage in their discrimination and bigotry. If they spent even 1/2 the energy just trying to be more "Christ-like" or spending time actually studying the teachings of Christ.....they would be much better off.
    Christ was a Jew, he was taught that homosexuality was an abomination to God. Now who is the one being more "Christlike"?

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    I guess it depends on who you think is being discriminated against. Those who have decided that gay rights trump religious freedom means the one who is denied the ability to live out his moral convictions is the one being discriminated against.
    100% false and its been proven false every time you say it

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    The people in some states allow gay rights to trump religious freedoms. Gotcha !
    Baking a cake is not a religious practice, and not protected by the constitution
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Christ was a Jew, he was taught that homosexuality was an abomination to God. Now who is the one being more "Christlike"?
    Christ taught no such thing....and I venture to say....Jesus Christ would be appalled at the idea of someone using his name to promote bigotry and discrimination. Study the life of Jesus Christ and you will understand why I say that.
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    I am sorry, but I was not aware my body was a business? I was not aware that my house was a business? I do not rent out my body or my house or provide any commercial service. What you suggest is ridiculous because we were talking about businesses and nothing else.
    Why couldn't it be? We can make you have to service whoever we wanted. Why don't you accept that? You seemed to accept it for other kinds of property, right? Why is my proposal not fair? We can put it in a contract to practice your rights. What about that? If you don't like it all you have to do is not sign the contract.
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