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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    The ruling in is. Chalk another one up for the good guys
    Colorado judge: Bakery owner discriminated against gay couple - Washington TimesA Colorado judge ruled Friday against a bakery owner who refused to prepare a cake for a gay couple’s wedding reception.

    Administrative Law Judge Robert N. Spencer ordered Jack Phillips, owner of Masterpiece Cakeshop in Lakewood, to “cease and desist from discriminating against complainants and other same-sex couples by refusing to sell them wedding cakes or any other product [he] would provide to heterosexual couples.”


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    Another ruling that bigotry will no longer be tolerated in America. If this baker is truly concerned about his religious beliefs....perhaps he should start by trying to be more "Christ-like" and try living the principles that Jesus Christ taught.
    I don't like this sort of crap. No one has right to another's property and labor, and that is what this is all about. I believe the bakery should be allowed to refuse service to anyone they want. It's their business, their product, their ingredients.

    I think this is pointless whining and people thinking that just because someone has a different opinion and practices that they should be forced to adopt there own. It's thought control and nothing more. This can be better handled through intelligent consumerism than it can government force.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    We\re talking about prejudice against Gays, and the legalization of their murder, and Muslims are the center of such odious behavior. Have you ever spoken up against their bigotry?
    I must have missed when lynching blacks was legal in this country, at least after slavery was ended.

    People beat up and even kill gays in this country frequently, specifically based on their orientation, and only OUR LAWS keep more of that from happening more. It is not legal nor morally condoned.

    The difference is that some other countries do not have such laws. That has nothing to do with discrimination and equal rights in this country....they dont even have the concept of equal rights.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Sure it is. It is about people standing up for their civil rights.
    Standing up for government usurping our natural rights is more like it.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Standing up for government usurping our natural rights is more like it.
    The only "natural right" you have is death.

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Bigotry is Bigotry is Bigotry.
    Government force against our rights is government force against our rights is government force against our rights.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    The only "natural right" you have is death.
    Life, liberty, and property. But whatever.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Life, liberty, and property. But whatever.
    Those aren't natural rights but those guaranteed by government. That's why the topic concerns civil rights.

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Those aren't natural rights but those guaranteed by government. That's why the topic concerns civil rights.
    Those are not granted by government. In fact when government encroaches too grievously upon them, the People are justified in revolt. That cannot happen if they are granted by government. And by mere fact you claim rights are granted by government demonstrates that you do not understand the fundamental concept of rights. You're looking for the word "privilege". You do not believe in rights, you believe in government granted privilege.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    And the laws being passed are not protecting the rights of all citizens. For every baker that refuses to bake a cake for a gay couple due to religious convictions there are two more bakers out there that would gladly take their business. Your intolerance to not allow a person the right to moral conscience in my opinion is probably the most intolerant act of all because you want to force them to violate their very being in the name of some misguided law. Disgusting.
    How do you know that? You do not and in some areas of this country...where things are more spread out or more conservative or both, they may not have other choices.

    And the point is....a few decades ago, almost no bakeries would have baked any cake for a gay couple (no weddings at that time). Then as society became more enlightened, more bakeries might do so, and then more and then more. Until people dont think twice about serving blacks or Jews or gays....that is the goal anyway. (yes, bakery was just a convenient example here.)
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    How do you know that? You do not and in some areas of this country...where things are more spread out or more conservative or both, they may not have other choices.

    And the point is....a few decades ago, almost no bakeries would have baked any cake for a gay couple (no weddings at that time). Then as society became more enlightened, more bakeries might do so, and then more and then more. Until people dont think twice about serving blacks or Jews or gays....that is the goal anyway. (yes, bakery was just a convenient example here.)
    What does any of that have to do with government? You do realize you are explaining social acceptance right? We don't need laws to accomplish such goals.

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