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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    There are some things to many that are more important than money.
    Then they should never have opened a business that is open to the public. Unfortunately, their "principles" were not enough to limit their greed

    Being at peace with one's conscience trumps making a buck for many good folks. You want them to offer their talents toward something that goes against what their God teaches.
    No, I want them to keep their bigotry and criminality out of the public sphere
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Then they should never have opened a business that is open to the public. Unfortunately, their "principles" were not enough to limit their greed
    Maybe they just desired to open the business of their choosing. Maybe, just maybe, it had nothing to do with greed.

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Then they should never have opened a business that is open to the public. Unfortunately, their "principles" were not enough to limit their greed



    No, I want them to keep their bigotry and criminality out of the public sphere
    Yes, keep engaging in your bullying to force them into offering their services to private organizations so they are out of the "public sphere" and that way you no longer will have to try and justiify your intolerance of their religious beliefs and bigotry toward their religions.

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by WorldWatcher View Post
    She wasn't "forced" to shut down her business as in the government ordering her to.

    She shutdown the store-front for economic reasons. After the case made the news there was a significant drop in business and she couldn't afford to remain open as a store-front. Operations were moved to a home-based business.


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    Cool. That's why the govt isnt always needed to create protections...sometimes the market can. That's the way it's supposed to work.

    But anti-discrimination laws are created specifically designed to protect minorities and enable them to have the same opportunities as the majority. (Reader's Digest version of course). They serve the purpose designed to support the Const. and benefit American society.

    You can agree or disagree with that concept/law but that is part of the law governing businesses in that state....whatever your religion, you know that when you agree to the business license from that state.
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Yes, keep engaging in your bullying to force them into offering their services to private organizations so they are out of the "public sphere"
    Thanks but I don't need your permission to do what is right.

    and that way you no longer will have to try and justiify your intolerance of their religious beliefs and bigotry toward their religions.
    I tolerate their beliefs. Our society does not tolerate their breaking the law in order to satisfy their bigotry and greed
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You make a few claims here about Christians without offering any support. But, in any case, this is not about Blacks.
    What kind of support do you want? Many Christians also 'believed' that women were not supposed to work out side the home and that God granted them permission to beat their wives. Are those in the Bible? Many sects did interpret the Bible that way.

    More important, the case isnt about blacks, no, but it IS about civil rights, which blacks and women both had to fight for as well.
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Thanks but I don't need your permission to do what is right.



    I tolerate their beliefs. Our society does not tolerate their breaking the law in order to satisfy their bigotry and greed
    And the laws being passed are not protecting the rights of all citizens. For every baker that refuses to bake a cake for a gay couple due to religious convictions there are two more bakers out there that would gladly take their business. Your intolerance to not allow a person the right to moral conscience in my opinion is probably the most intolerant act of all because you want to force them to violate their very being in the name of some misguided law. Disgusting.

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Thanks but I don't need your permission to do what is right.



    I tolerate their beliefs. Our society does not tolerate their breaking the law in order to satisfy their bigotry and greed
    Actually, refusing to sell a cake they made is the opposite of greed because they are clearly losing profit.

    Hyperbole never wins debates.

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    And the laws being passed are not protecting the rights of all citizens. For every baker that refuses to bake a cake for a gay couple due to religious convictions there are two more bakers out there that would gladly take their business. Your intolerance to not allow a person the right to moral conscience in my opinion is probably the most intolerant act of all because you want to force them to violate their very being in the name of some misguided law. Disgusting.
    They have the right to believe whatever their immoral conscience tells them to believe

    they don't have the right to break the law to satisfy their disgusting bigotry and greed
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Yes, yes, what Rosa Parks did was the same as two Gays ordering a wedding cake and going to the courts when the baker refused. We get it.
    No single act ended racism...still hasnt.

    It's the accumulation of sruggle and visibility and education and societal change.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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