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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    The law have given people who are discriminated against have been given protection under the law and that gives them claim to the property or service. The law also forbids discrimination and that too gives people the right to be protected from bigots.
    Then I suppose you wouldn't have a problem if I passed a law giving people a claim to your house or your body. Just so you know, I expect you to provide them services that you have provided other people. I hope you don't feel the need to discriminate.

    And it is not good enough for waiting for businesses to change because it they find discriminating is "not find it in their interest". Economy is not the way to change bigoted attitudes of businesses, for that a law has been made and businesses who do not comply with that law have to suffer the legal consequence for their misdeeds.
    Law doesn't change peoples attitudes towards whatever it is acting on. Forcing someone to comply to something can never dream of changing how people feel towards it. People must decide on their own to change, just like society can only ever hope to change itself. Law can make people comply with the use of threats and force, but it has no ability to change peoples attitudes.
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    True because everyone knows that whenever you compare two things, you're saying that they are the same exact thing
    How would you compare two Gays not being offered a wedding cake in one establishment with the centuries long struggle, including a Civil War and murders, for the rights of Black people?

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    You think these two cases are even in the same universe?

    Were this couples lives in danger when they ordered the cake?

    How do the black posters feel about the idea that these two cases are similar? The comparison minimizes what Rosa Parks did as insignificant, which is what this case is.

    Get real.
    I didn't say that they were both on the same level.....but to call comparisons ridiculous...is......well.....ridiculous. They are both examples of people standing up against bigotry.
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    How would you compare two Gays not being offered a wedding cake in one establishment with the centuries long struggle, including a Civil War and murders, for the rights of Black people?
    Asked and answered
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Oh really? Simple as that? When laws are in conflict with constitutional rights, what then? People can surely open a businsess and choose who they will serve through dealing with private organizations. And as our laws continue to violate the first principles of our Constitution in the name of social justice and political correctness, more and more business owners will become exclusive only serving those who respect their belief system.
    You obviously have no understanding of the law. People cannot "surely open a business and choose who they will serve".....that is against the law. There is nothing in this ruling that is in conflict with the Constitution, in fact, just the opposite. People are free to have their own belief systems....what they are not free to do is use it as a shield to promote their bigotry. When you open a business, you have to comply with the laws of this country. Don't want to do that? Then don't open a business....simple as that.
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    How would you compare two Gays not being offered a wedding cake in one establishment with the centuries long struggle, including a Civil War and murders, for the rights of Black people?
    I'm sure the bigots of Rosa Parks day thought that she was being just as ridiculous. The bottom line is Bigotry is Bigotry is Bigotry and sometimes you have to stand up against it.
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    You are now in cuckoo crazy territory
    It seems you know as little about Gays in Islam as you do about Black History.

    Photographs To Help Explain Why There Are No Homosexuals In Iran [Content Warning: Graphic Photos] (Updated: Video Added) | Mere Rhetoric

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I'm sure the bigots of Rosa Parks day thought that she was being just as ridiculous. The bottom line is Bigotry is Bigotry is Bigotry and sometimes you have to stand up against it.
    What stand are you taking against bigotry? Anything more than writing in to a debate forum?

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Asked and answered
    More cut and run from a leftist. I've come to expect this.

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    We;re not talking about Iran. Try to keep up
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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