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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    No one is being treated as less than a full person. Now if gay people were being treated like 3/5 of a person as Black slaves once were, then you might have a point but that isn't the case. At times there are conflicts between us in our view of what is moral. The question that should be asked is it moral to force another by law to do something that is against their own conscience? The answer should be NO! As marriage continues to be redefined who knows what it will look like in twenty years. Already there are groups of people in this country that don't see it morally wrong for incest relationships and want to know why there are laws on the books to forbid it. There are others who do not find it morally wrong to engage in polygamy and want to know why there are laws that forbid them in such relationships. It isn't a far leap before some judge somewhere will rule incest relations and polygamy legal. It is happening all over the world. Not if but when that happens, and a father and daughter wanting to get married, and the baker refuses to bake them a cake because he finds their relationship immoral, then the baker could be hauled into court for saying no. It is coming for those business owners who believe marriage to be between a man and a women will no longer offer their services to the public. The wedding planners, the photographers, the bakers, caterers will solely work with private organizations that share their same belief system.
    The solution is simple. If you don't want to comply with the laws of this country, then don't open a business. Simple as that.
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Someone has been lynching Gays in America? Is it the Muslim influence?

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Someone has been lynching Gays in America? Is it the Muslim influence?
    Someone has been killing gays in america. It's the right wing influence.
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    How is it ridiculous? Both are examples of people standing up to bigotry.
    You think these two cases are even in the same universe?

    Were this couples lives in danger when they ordered the cake?

    How do the black posters feel about the idea that these two cases are similar? The comparison minimizes what Rosa Parks did as insignificant, which is what this case is.

    Get real.

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    The solution is simple. If you don't want to comply with the laws of this country, then don't open a business. Simple as that.
    Oh really? Simple as that? When laws are in conflict with constitutional rights, what then? People can surely open a businsess and choose who they will serve through dealing with private organizations. And as our laws continue to violate the first principles of our Constitution in the name of social justice and political correctness, more and more business owners will become exclusive only serving those who respect their belief system.

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    The law have given people who are discriminated against have been given protection under the law and that gives them claim to the property or service. The law also forbids discrimination and that too gives people the right to be protected from bigots.

    And it is not good enough for waiting for businesses to change because it they find discriminating is "not find it in their interest". Economy is not the way to change bigoted attitudes of businesses, for that a law has been made and businesses who do not comply with that law have to suffer the legal consequence for their misdeeds.
    I doubt you realize what a can of worms you'd be opening with this. Gays, like anyone else, can be jerks. If they wan to ruin a legitimate business all they have to do is claim that the owner insulted them in some way, or claim they weren't served properly. I've worked with my Gays in my life in the hospitality industry (including as a bouncer in a Gay bar) and except fr their sexuality they are regular people. They should therefore be treated like regular people, and if they aren't then let the market decide. Making a special case for Gays would separate them from mainstream society, which is where they should be. New laws don't necessarily settle old problems.

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    You think these two cases are even in the same universe?

    Were this couples lives in danger when they ordered the cake?

    How do the black posters feel about the idea that these two cases are similar? The comparison minimizes what Rosa Parks did as insignificant, which is what this case is. Get real.
    You're absolutely right. People who compare this to what Blacks went through in trying to get the rights due every person must know so very little about Black history that they demean themselves and the entire education system. They seem to believe they're being insightful with these comparisons but it is an insult to all the Black people who were persecuted and murdered over the centuries.

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You're absolutely right. People who compare this to what Blacks went through in trying to get the rights due every person must know so very little about Black history that they demean themselves and the entire education system. They seem to believe they're being insightful with these comparisons but it is an insult to all the Black people who were persecuted and murdered over the centuries.
    True because everyone knows that whenever you compare two things, you're saying that they are the same exact thing
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Someone has been killing gays in america. It's the right wing influence.
    The only people killing people because they are Gay are Muslims, and there is plenty of documentation to demonstrate this. Are you saying that Muslims are influencing others to murder Gay people?

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The only people killing people because they are Gay are Muslims
    You are now in cuckoo crazy territory
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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