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    re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

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    And you believed me, which shows you haven't
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    re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    The bigotry lies in forcing someone to go against their beliefs via their private business to provide you with a service for something they believe is wrong.

    This goes beyond gay "rights" and gets into bullying through the courts.
    I'm curious. Some people interpret certain passages out of the Bible as suggesting that people should not marry outside their race. If people who hold that particular religious interpretation were to deny services to an interracial couple, would you feel the same way as you do in this situation? Or is your opinion in this matter entirely because you view homosexuality as sinful?

    Just to be clear, I am not asking you to debate the validity of the Biblical interpretation of those who believe that interracial marriage is immoral, only whether or not you would respect their religious view to the extent that you believe that they should be free to discriminate on what services they provide based on it.
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    re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    How so? Baking a cake for the purpose of honoring a gay relationship (a gay marriage) may be something the baker views as supporting that or going against his convictions. On the flip side, if a business felt it was wrong to support religion because religion brings about all the world's ills (in their view) I shouldn't be able to force the baker into servitude and have them bake for my church event. Part of his religious practice could be to live a moral life and not do things that go against what he believes is wrong. It's part of the "free exercise thereof." Religion is more than ritual, for many it's a way of life and permeates everything that they do with their actions and live existing to honor God or live along a certain path.
    The baker is free to have whatever "convictions" he wants to have. However, baking a cake has never been considered a religious practice, so it gets no protection from the constitution.
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    re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    but the constitution is clear no one can be put into.......... involuntary servitude...unless a crime has been committed, discrimination is not a crime.
    Yes, because slavery is all about capturing africans and bringing them to america to bake wedding cakes
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    re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Yes, because slavery is all about capturing africans and bringing them to america to bake wedding cakes
    you can slice it and dice it.......... but your cant get around the 13th amendment.

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    re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I think Jesus wouldn't support people living in sin. He was kind to the woman who was sleeping around, but he did tell her to go and sin no more.
    Well since we are in the realm of personal, subjective interpretation of what Jesus would or would not condone, I am going to argue that Jesus actually affirmed a gay couple in the story of the Roman centurion. And since faith works by just believing, I am going to state you are wrong.
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    re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    This is setting a difficult precedent.

    What if someone comes into the shop and wants a cake decorated to look like a penis? Should the shop be required to make the cake even though doing so offends their sensibilities? Should they be required to decorate a cake for neo-nazi's who want a swastika cake?

    In Arizona it's legal to sell medical marijuana. I can guarantee you that I won't do a tax return for a marijuana business. Is that discrimination? Damned right it is!

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    re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    This is setting a difficult precedent.

    What if someone comes into the shop and wants a cake decorated to look like a penis? Should the shop be required to make the cake even though doing so offends their sensibilities? Should they be required to decorate a cake for neo-nazi's who want a swastika cake?

    In Arizona it's legal to sell medical marijuana. I can guarantee you that I won't do a tax return for a marijuana business. Is that discrimination? Damned right it is!
    You are kidding, right? Colorado has a nondiscrimination law that protects people from discrimination based on sexual orientation. That was the law that the baker violated. The baker had baked cakes for dog weddings, but he would not bake a cake for a gay wedding because the people who requested it were gay. That is pretty clear cut.

    What does a penis cake have to do with denying people services because they are gay? And do you think Nazis are protected under Colorado's nondiscrimination law?
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    re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    This is setting a difficult precedent.

    1.) What if someone comes into the shop and wants a cake decorated to look like a penis? Should the shop be required to make the cake even though doing so offends their sensibilities?
    2.) Should they be required to decorate a cake for neo-nazi's who want a swastika cake?

    In Arizona it's legal to sell medical marijuana. I can guarantee you that I won't do a tax return for a marijuana business. Is that discrimination? Damned right it is!
    1.) what does an obscene cake have to do with illegal discrimination and or violation of equal rights?
    2.) also what does swastikas have to do with illegal discrimination and or violation of equal rights?

    there is no legal precedence between the things mentioned above and illegal discrimination and or equal rights.
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    re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Yes, because slavery is all about capturing africans and bringing them to america to bake wedding cakes
    not to mention there is no force
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