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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I don't honestly care what a judge thinks that was appointed by people that agree with him. His opinion means nothing to me.
    Well, that is your problem because for the law and the legal point of view what this judge thinks does matter. And I think it is good that this judge decided this because there is no place for anti-gay bigotry.
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Well, that is your problem because for the law and the legal point of view what this judge thinks does matter. And I think it is good that this judge decided this because there is no place for anti-gay bigotry.
    The legislator appoints those that approve of their legislation. Nothing about it could be described as a check or a balance.

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Well, that is your problem because for the law and the legal point of view what this judge thinks does matter. And I think it is good that this judge decided this because there is no place for anti-gay bigotry.
    My son is Gay and I know that he and I would both believe this guy to be a jerk. Letting people know this owners attitude though the internet, the media, etc. is the best way to handle people like this. Going through the courts is where one side rights is going to harm another sides rights. There are better ways to handle this than the courts.

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    Heres more articles on this win of equal rights:

    https://www.aclu.org/lgbt-rights/cha...piece-cakeshop
    Judge orders Colo. cake-maker to serve gay couples - The Washington Post
    Judge orders baker to serve gay couples despite his religious beliefs | Fox News
    Judge rules wedding cake shop must serve gays, despite owner's religious beliefs - Long Island Top News | Examiner.com
    Judge orders Colorado baker to serve gay couples - U.S. News
    Colorado baker discriminated by denying gay couple wedding cake: judge - Chicago Tribune
    Judge Rules Colorado Bakery Discriminated Against Gay Couple - Wall Street Journal - WSJ.com
    Judge orders Colo. cake-maker to serve gay couples - The Denver Post

    heres some quotes from the ruling/judge from the varies links

    when i can find the actual rulling ill post it too


    “The undisputed facts show that Respondents (Phillips) discriminated against Complainants because of their sexual orientation by refusing to sell them a wedding cake for their same-sex marriage,” Judge Spencer wrote.
    “Conceptually, [Mr. Phillips's] refusal to serve a same-sex couple due to religious objection to same-sex weddings is no different from refusing to serve a biracial couple because of religious objection to biracial marriage,” wrote Judge Spencer.
    The order says the cake-maker must “cease and desist from discriminating” against gay couples. Although the judge did not impose fines in this case, the business will face penalties if it continues to turn away gay couples who want to buy cakes.
    “At first blush, it may seem reasonable that a private business should be able to refuse service to anyone it chooses,” Judge Spencer said in his written order. “This view, however, fails to take into account the cost to society and the hurt caused to persons who are denied service simply because of who they are.”

    so theres lots of reading for everyone and it seems the fact remains the owner broke the law and illegally discriminated against others infringing on their rights

    next time the shop owner will no better and wont break the law and violate peoples rights
    Just wanted to reply to this in case people missed all the articles and the ruling

    Owner chose to play in the public realm and open a public access business, this requires a licenses and has rules and laws that regulated it
    Owner chose to break the law, commit a crime and make himself a criminal which has consequences


    The judge actually let the criminal off easy,he didn't fine him or anything, he just gave him a cease and desist order.

    So all the owner has to do is stop breaking the law, committing crimes, illegal discriminating and stop infringing on peoples rights, seems easy to me.
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Well, that is your problem because for the law and the legal point of view what this judge thinks does matter. And I think it is good that this judge decided this because there is no place for anti-gay bigotry.
    yep when you break the law, do illegal activity and get caught you typically end up in some type of court room, the owner has nobody to blame but himself and the judge enforced the clear cut laws, rules and facts just like he is supposed to.
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Leave it to liberals to praise totalitarian law.

    Do as we say. Individual liberty is not allowed. Your opinion is not allowed.

    You have no rights that we don't allow you to have.

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    My son is Gay and I know that he and I would both believe this guy to be a jerk. Letting people know this owners attitude though the internet, the media, etc. is the best way to handle people like this. Going through the courts is where one side rights is going to harm another sides rights. There are better ways to handle this than the courts.
    I think it is wonderful you are so accepting of your son, some parents go insane when they find out one of their children is gay.

    I think that going to the courts is a good thing because it sets a precedent and will hopefully make other companies think twice before acting in a bigoted manner.
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    1.)I think it is wonderful you are so accepting of your son, some parents go insane when they find out one of their children is gay.

    2.) I think that going to the courts is a good thing because it sets a precedent and will hopefully make other companies think twice before acting in a bigoted manner.

    1.) I agree 100%

    2.) I also agree, not to mention IMO not sending criminals to court just helps perpetuate the problem. Court is exactly where they deserve to be.
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    I think it is wonderful you are so accepting of your son, some parents go insane when they find out one of their children is gay.

    I think that going to the courts is a good thing because it sets a precedent and will hopefully make other companies think twice before acting in a bigoted manner.

    We should consider ourselves possessing the ability to shop at establishments that don't discriminate. Since we have the ability to spread the word of these establishments and people are generally in agreement that discrimination is bad there is little reason for law here. We can handle this on our own.

    The property in question is not your property and you have no say on who they permit on it, but the money you use in the market place is and so is your facilities. Use them and stop insisting on acting on the rights of other people.

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I am glad that the black population stood up for themselves. All bigotry is wrong and everyone is entitled to their civil rights. You are obviously living in the past century. Nobody is talking about forcing every human being to be bi...that is just a silly argument. What we are saying is that in 2013, it is no ok to be a bigot any longer...and the courts are going to continue to strike down discrimination every time it rears its ugly head. Welcome to the 21st Century JJB.
    ya welcome to 2013 disney dude. And news flash unless their is absolute equality everywhere, even the courts discriminate. That is what i mean by forcing everyone to be bi, it is the only way o end all segregation and discrimination. If that is not achieved then gays and lesbians and blacks and immigrants and EVERYONE will always have to live with being discriminated against.
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