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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Yes, it is totally different. Sorry, if that upsets you.
    No, it doesn't upset me. You want an America where hospitals let people die for being Jewish. I think that's great. I think you should tell everybody you meet that you think hospitals should be allowed to let all their Jewish patients die. It would save me the trouble of having to explain to people why these equal protection laws are so important. Plus, you'd make so many new friends!
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Unless they refused to sell him cake this post is totally off topic.
    No, it's not off topic, it's part of the reason these laws exist. A bakery sells cake and a hospital treats patients.

    Seriously, I have to explain that to you?
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    i am saying that is what they did,...i dont like it.

    are you saying states can set up their own state religions?
    No, you are lying now

    You have said that USSC does not have the power to change the constitution. Now you're saying it does.

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mustachio View Post
    No, it doesn't upset me. You want an America where hospitals let people die for being Jewish. I think that's great. I think you should tell everybody you meet that you think hospitals should be allowed to let all their Jewish patients die. It would save me the trouble of having to explain to people why these equal protection laws are so important. Plus, you'd make so many new friends!
    Freedom is bad and dealing with social problems by actually facing them is horrible stuff. Why not just force people into service for others instead? Yeah, I like that idea better. That other way was hard.

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mustachio View Post
    No, it's not off topic, it's part of the reason these laws exist. A bakery sells cake and a hospital treats patients.

    Seriously, I have to explain that to you?
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mustachio View Post
    You want an America where hospitals let people die for being Jewish.
    This is quite a serious charge. Can you point out where this was said?

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    This is quite a serious charge. Can you point out where this was said?
    It's been said in this thread by Henrin that ANYONE selling something should have the right to refuse a service to someone for any reason. Therefore, a hospital (under the logic of Henrin) should have the right to refuse to provide any treatment to a Jewish person if they wish.

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    wrong you have NO exercisable rights on another person's property.
    To open a business in a state, that property/business owner must apply for a business license...a contract that says, among other things, they may not discriminate against federal and state protected classes.

    Are you saying that it is ok to breech that contract when you dont want to serve blacks or women or Catholics or gays? That is a civil law violation.
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    The right to force people to associate with you.
    That's not what freedom of association stands for. Nobody is forcing you to join a group of any sort.

    The right to get service from other people against their will.
    Against their will? No one is forcing them to set up a business.

    The right to enter property that is not your own.
    If the business is open to the public, you have a right to patron it. Don't like it? Move somewhere else. Mexico's nice.

    The right to use resources that are not your own.
    Now you're just making things up to see what sticks.
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    wrong!

    this is case of discrimination, it is not a crime.

    if government states that a one citizen MUST serve another citizen, that is involuntary servitude, and it is unconstitutional
    Yeah, it IS a crime, unless you want to go back to the days where blacks were not allowed to eat at restaurants, and had their own bathrooms and drinking fountains.

    And involuntary servitude? That was known as slavery. So let's not claim that obeying the law is slavery. That is a lame argument. There is no comparison. Period.
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