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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The constitution is a limit on the federal govt, not the state.
    wrong, the constitution WAS a limit of the federal government only, however that changed with the civil war, and states were included.

    according to you then the first amendment then does not apply to states......is it time for a state religion?

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mustachio View Post
    I understand what you're saying, don't get me wrong.

    The simple fact of the matter is that we know what the world looks like when we do it your way, and it is barbaric and stupid and promotes inequality. You argument implies that we should let people create de facto discrimination because they have that right. Discrimination doesn't uphold rights! Don't you see that? It is clear that the goal of this nation was to let all men be born free and let their will and determinations define who they are and who we are as a people. We cannot be born equal if we live in a world where we are denied the services almost everybody else receives simply because we were born black, or a woman, or gay. The people agree with me on this one and for all of my ancestors, I thank god this will never change back to the stupidity it used to be. You lost this one a long time ago, but feel free to waste your breath arguing in favor of prejudice and hatred. Oh, I'm sorry, I mean in favor of the wonderful freedom to be disgusted by gay people and deny them your goods and/or services. What a tragic loss for the homophobes.
    You talk of social problems dealing with acceptance and your solution to facing these problems is by violating the rights of people. Sorry, but that is no solution, only a problem. If you wish to deal with acceptance, then deal with it, don't deal with it by violating peoples rights.

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    wrong, the constitution WAS a limit of the federal government only, however that changed with the civil war, and states were included.

    according to you then the first amendment then does not apply to states......is it time for a state religion?
    No, according to you, the constitution limits the Feds but not the States.
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Who is murdering you by not providing you service? You are being ignored, not murdered.
    Right, the hospital my great grandfather went to merely ignored him. Then he died from being ignored. It's not murder, it's just letting a person die, totally different. Why should hospitals have to treat Jews? Every time a hospital lets a Jew die, it makes my heart warm because I know that those doctors are truly free. It's totally worth letting a lot of people die for.
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mustachio View Post
    Right, the hospital my great grandfather went to merely ignored him. Then he died from being ignored. It's not murder, it's just letting a person die, totally different. Why should hospitals have to treat Jews? Every time a hospital lets a Jew die, it makes my heart warm because I know that those doctors are truly free. It's totally worth letting a lot of people die for.
    Yes, it is totally different. Sorry, if that upsets you.

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    No, according to you, the constitution limits the Feds but not the States.
    i stated to you in the past, that is the way the founders set it up, that it only applied to the federal government, however unfortunately, the USSC changed it and included the states after the civil war.

    if it didn't, according to you, then states can setup a state religion....i would like very much to go back to the original way...

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mustachio View Post
    Right, the hospital my great grandfather went to merely ignored him. Then he died from being ignored. It's not murder, it's just letting a person die, totally different. Why should hospitals have to treat Jews? Every time a hospital lets a Jew die, it makes my heart warm because I know that those doctors are truly free. It's totally worth letting a lot of people die for.
    Unless they refused to sell him cake this post is totally off topic.

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    i stated to you in the past, that is the way the founders set it up, that it only applied to the federal government, however unfortunately, the USSC changed it and included the states after the civil war.
    You claimed that USSC didn't have the authority to change the constitution. Now you're claiming it does.
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Unless they refused to sell him cake this post is totally off topic.
    Maybe they offered people cake after surgery.

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    You claimed that USSC didn't have the authority to change the constitution. Now you're claiming it does.
    i am saying that is what they did,...i dont like it.

    are you saying states can set up their own state religions?

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