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    re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    There's a difference between a morality-neutral product, and a product that is created and sold for the express purpose of promoting immorality.
    LOL.....how is a cake sold for the express purpose of promoting immorality. That is a ridiculous assertion. The entire idea that some baked products are "morality neutral" and others are not is simply ludicrous.
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    re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Ahhh... but we have first amendment religious freedoms here in this land. And, by the Constitution, there cannot be made laws infringing upon that right. Right?

    Right.
    All rights/privileges in this country are not absolute. They must still comply with other Constitutional mandates.
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    re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    How exactly is baking a cake..."acoomplishing their continued sinning"....but selling them a loaf of bread is not? How does a wedding cake "accomplish their continued sinning". You are providing a product...period.
    Is the wedding of two gay folk an effort to stop them from sinning, as I think the Christian religion is against the idea, as in a man should not lay with another man...or, rather, is it a confirmation that they will be continuing to sin in that very way?
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    re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Ahhh... but we have first amendment religious freedoms here in this land. And, by the Constitution, there cannot be made laws infringing upon that right. Right?

    Right.
    Apparently not right. Of course, I'm not a Constitutional scholar. Or a Judge. But as far as I know, that is the law of the land and the Constitutional defense, no doubt brought up by the defendants attorney, did not pass muster.

    I don't make these laws. I just abide by them. The laws don't care if I agree with them - I must follow them or pay the price.

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    re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    All rights/privileges in this country are not absolute. They must still comply with other Constitutional mandates.
    Religious freedom is one of the most PRIMARY of constitutional mandates, my fellow citizen. Mandates meaning something completely different here, I might add.
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    re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Is the wedding of two gay folk an effort to stop them from sinning, as I think the Christian religion is against the idea, as in a man should not lay with another man...or, rather, is it a confirmation that they will be continuing to sin in that very way?
    Christ himself never spoke on the subject...and many Christian religions are not against the idea, although many are. Regardless...you cannot hide behind religion as an excuse for bigotry. That is exactly what this Court said. If you choose to do business in this country, you have to comply with the laws of this land. You cannot use your religion as a shield to promote your bigotry and decide who you want to allow to patronize your business. This is the same ruling that prevented bigoted restaurant owners from refusing to serve blacks, just because they believed it violated their perverted version of "morality".
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    re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    Apparently not right. Of course, I'm not a Constitutional scholar. Or a Judge. But as far as I know, that is the law of the land and the Constitutional defense, no doubt brought up by the defendants attorney, did not pass muster.

    I don't make these laws. I just abide by them. The laws don't care if I agree with them - I must follow them or pay the price.
    Well, that is supposition on your part, of course... its common sense that is should very well have "passed muster". We currently have far too many activist judges in the system, liberals who do not follow the Constitution and instead subvert it.
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    re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Religious freedom is one of the most PRIMARY of constitutional mandates, my fellow citizen. Mandates meaning something completely different here, I might add.
    Bigotry in the name of religion is still bigotry. Our Constitution does not allow disparate treatment of individuals. This is exactly why the bigots of the 50-60's couldn't use their "morality" to refuse to serve blacks.
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    re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Well, that is supposition on your part, of course... its common sense that is should very well have "passed muster". We currently have far too many activist judges in the system, liberals who do not follow the Constitution and instead subvert it.
    LOL....the bigots called the judges that struck down bigotry in the civil rights movement "Activists" as well. I guess "Activist judges" means someone who won't allow the bigots to continue with their discrimination.
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    re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Well, that is supposition on your part, of course... its common sense that is should very well have "passed muster". We currently have far too many activist judges in the system, liberals who do not follow the Constitution and instead subvert it.
    Supposition? No. Discrimination has been against the law for some time now.

    You can blame whomever you like and you can disparage the reasoning and purpose but the law itself is pretty clear.

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