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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    That is your opinion, which you are entitled to, and which I will ignore.

    Before the 1964 Civil Rights Act was enacted, all over the USA millions of Black citizens were denied service at many locations.

    Maybe you are not aware of that.

    I know about it because I lived through it .
    Who cares? Property owners have the right to deny entry to anyone they please and everyone has the right to provide service to only those they desire.

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    No...it simply means that seeing that you believe that the Constitution stops at Article 12 clearly shows your ignorance and explains in full detail why you cannot fully participate in this debate and why it is futile to spend any more time trying to intelligently debate the issue until you educate yourself a bit more.
    Lol! I love people that desire to make the 14th amendment apply to private citizens and at the same time don't want to pay any mind to the 1st and 13th amendment. You're not only being selective in your argument, but basically ignoring the entire document to make up your own little fairytale.

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Who cares? Property owners have the right to deny entry to anyone they please and everyone has the right to provide service to only those they desire.
    In theory, I agree. But where specifically are those rights defined?
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Ever heard of the Equal Protection Clause? You might want to read it sometime.
    Ok, lets read it.

    All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
    Notice anything? I was unaware a business was a state and could pass laws.

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    1.)As so often the case with similar topics the point here is missed. It matters not an atom what you or I think about what constitutes sexual orientation or pornography, or rights, or discrimination. It matters solely what an individual in the form of one judge or anther thinks at a given moment. A few years ago, scarcely a judge anywhere in the country would have entertained a case like this. Law didn't change, political fashion did. And tomorrow, it might change in a way that you don't like at all, and you'll be just as powerless as the baker.
    correct and what determines that is precedent and there is none here thats no connection between porn and sexual orientation sorry you are factually wrong


    if you disagree by all means show us the law that factually links sexual orientation with porn, you wont be able to do it because your strawman is a complete failure
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Soupnazi630 View Post
    Every person with a religion applies their beliefs selectively and yes the first amendment protects the right to do so.
    My human sacrifice cult religion will be happy to hear this.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    Obviously, it is. Please refer to the original post for a clear example.
    nope theres nothing in the OP that FACTUALLY realates to the fallacy, if you disagree again simply post the FACTUAL connections
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Ok, lets read it.



    Notice anything? I was unaware a business was a state and could pass laws.
    You mighta missed something.

    This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the constitution or laws of any state to the contrary notwithstanding.
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Who cares?
    Property owners have the right to deny entry to anyone they please and everyone has the right to provide service to only those they desire.



    Not according to the 1964 Civil Rights Act and other U.S. laws they don't.




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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    Jesus was a Jew, not a Christian. Jewish law states that you must follow the law of the land with only 2 exceptions. Murder and Adultery.

    Interestingly, over the years, adultery has become no BFD although murder is stil illegal.

    So, Jesus would have said "bake the cake and respect the law of the land".
    I asked my niece one time, she was around 12 years old, what religion Jesus was.

    She naturally said Christian.

    I asked her if she thought Jesus had such a huge head that he would name a religion after himself.

    I just had to laugh.

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