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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    So, yes, you do believe the US justice system should rule if a person has effectively proven that they are following the edicts of their religion before being able to cite it as a defense in court. Is this accurate?

    Where does it say a business can't refuse service to someone based on sexual orientation?
    There's a difference in doing something that involuntarily harms the public and something that doesn't. As I stated to disneydude, if a business is playing music too loud at night, throwing trash in the streets, or as in your example, not following food safety laws, that's a danger to the public. Not making a cake hurts no one.
    What about refusing to sell food to people?
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Soupnazi630 View Post
    I can read you did not cite a clause and tell me the clause which contaisn that provision.

    That is what it means to cite something which you cannot do.

    BTW equal protection has nothing to do with selling or buying it has to do with GOVERNMENT as in we all have the right to equal protection UNDER THE LAW.
    Dude open your eyes; ARTICLE 14, SEC 1

    Here let me spell it out for you since you seem to be incapable of doing so yourself:AMENDMENT XIV

    SECTION 1.

    All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.


    See what a little education can do? Or are you still going to claim ignorance and that there is nothing about Equal Protection in the Constitution. DOH!!!
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    What about refusing to sell food to people?
    Explain further please ie give me a hypothetical situation.
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Sorry...but if a bigot says that their "religion" or their "moral beliefs" prevent them from serving black patrons at their lunch counter....the law does not protect them. You might want it to be otherwise, but the Constitution does not allow it.
    We're not talking about black people. Please try to keep up.
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    I have to explore this more, inviting more libertarians to share their beliefs.

    On one side, as a Libertarian, I believe the business owner can buy and sell as he pleases. They can marry who they want and live as they will. We do not have to buy from or cater to him as well. People can make their own cakes if needed.

    On the other side, I am left wondering. Feel free to expound rationally.

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    You obviously cannot read then....go back and read......or do you still believe that there is nothing about "Equal Protection" in the Constitution.

    Oh...let me save you the trouble. Article 14, sec 1. You might want to read it...then you might not make such a silly claim.
    There is no article 14.

    For your general constitutional education the constitution stops with article VII

    So much for your expertise in the constitution

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    We're not talking about black people. Please try to keep up.
    Bigotry is Bigotry is Bigotry....you can't be a Cafeteria discriminator. Sorry.
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Explain further please ie give me a hypothetical situation.
    For example, say you live in town X. In town X, all the food selling venues (markets, restaurants, farms) decide to not sell food to group Y. Is that harming the public? Or is it permissible because they're harming only group Y's ability to feed itself?
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Soupnazi630 View Post
    There is no article 14.

    For your general constitutional education the constitution stops with article VII

    So much for your expertise in the constitution
    LOL....wow....you should stop now before you display any more of your ignorance. Too funny......
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    The ruling in is. Chalk another one up for the good guys
    Colorado judge: Bakery owner discriminated against gay couple - Washington TimesA Colorado judge ruled Friday against a bakery owner who refused to prepare a cake for a gay couple’s wedding reception.

    Administrative Law Judge Robert N. Spencer ordered Jack Phillips, owner of Masterpiece Cakeshop in Lakewood, to “cease and desist from discriminating against complainants and other same-sex couples by refusing to sell them wedding cakes or any other product [he] would provide to heterosexual couples.”


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    Another ruling that bigotry will no longer be tolerated in America. If this baker is truly concerned about his religious beliefs....perhaps he should start by trying to be more "Christ-like" and try living the principles that Jesus Christ taught.
    And another blow to private property rights.
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