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    re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    The ruling in is. Chalk another one up for the good guys
    Colorado judge: Bakery owner discriminated against gay couple - Washington TimesA Colorado judge ruled Friday against a bakery owner who refused to prepare a cake for a gay couple’s wedding reception.

    Administrative Law Judge Robert N. Spencer ordered Jack Phillips, owner of Masterpiece Cakeshop in Lakewood, to “cease and desist from discriminating against complainants and other same-sex couples by refusing to sell them wedding cakes or any other product [he] would provide to heterosexual couples.”


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    Another ruling that bigotry will no longer be tolerated in America. If this baker is truly concerned about his religious beliefs....perhaps he should start by trying to be more "Christ-like" and try living the principles that Jesus Christ taught.
    So a guy who owns a bakery has to sell to anybody who walks through his door.

    Who's this a victory for again?

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    re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

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    Not a bible scholar or anything here, nor even a Christian, but do stand up for other than just gay people's rights...

    So, if I remember correctly what I was long ago taught, Jesus threw the money changers out of the temple right? So he was not just for letting sins continue unabated. The idea, perhaps, was love the sinner not the sin... and so, do you genuinely believe that Jesus would he have, as a carpenter, say, built a wedding chapel just for homosexuals? Or be the one that actually wedded them, do you think? I think the bakery folks would/could treat their homosexual customers coming in to buy bread or a doughnut as normal customers just as they would anyone else...but to bake a wedding cake special... in other words help somebody in accomplishing their continued sinning... is that something Jesus would have advocated, do you really think? Truly?

    Try your best to be intellectually honest here... that is what Jesus would do, yanno?
    I think Jesus would be infuriated at anyone promoting bigotry in his name. Anyone who has studied the life of Christ would know that his teachings and beliefs run completely counter to what this Baker did. The idea that baking a cake is "accomplishing their continued sinning", but selling them a donut is ok....is just plain silly.
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    re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Not a bible scholar or anything here, nor even a Christian, but do stand up for other than just gay people's rights...

    So, if I remember correctly what I was long ago taught, Jesus threw the money changers out of the temple right? So he was not just for letting sins continue unabated. The idea, perhaps, was love the sinner not the sin... and so, do you genuinely believe that Jesus would he have, as a carpenter, say, built a wedding chapel just for homosexuals? Or be the one that actually wedded them, do you think? I think the bakery folks would/could treat their homosexual customers coming in to buy bread or a doughnut as normal customers just as they would anyone else...but to bake a wedding cake special... in other words help somebody in accomplishing their continued sinning... is that something Jesus would have advocated, do you really think? Truly?

    Try your best to be intellectually honest here... that is what Jesus would do, yanno?
    Jesus was a Jew, not a Christian. Jewish law states that you must follow the law of the land with only 2 exceptions. Murder and Adultery.

    Interestingly, over the years, adultery has become no BFD although murder is stil illegal.

    So, Jesus would have said "bake the cake and respect the law of the land".

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    re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    So a guy who owns a bakery has to sell to anybody who walks through his door.

    Who's this a victory for again?
    Absolutely. If you open you doors to the public, you have to comply with the laws of this country. Do you think it was ok for restaurant owners to refuse to serve blacks because it ran counter to their beliefs?

    This is a victory for everyone who stands against bigotry and injustice. A victory for people who truly believe in equality. A victory for people who believe in freedom and justice for all...not just some.
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    re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I think Jesus would be infuriated at anyone promoting bigotry in his name. Anyone who has studied the life of Christ would know that his teachings and beliefs run completely counter to what this Baker did. The idea that baking a cake is "accomplishing their continued sinning", but selling them a donut is ok....is just plain silly.
    Well, go ahead, explain how it is the same... or different...just saying its silly is ...well, silly.
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    re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Well, go ahead, explain how it is the same... or different...just saying its silly is ...well, silly.
    How exactly is baking a cake..."acoomplishing their continued sinning"....but selling them a loaf of bread is not? How does a wedding cake "accomplish their continued sinning". You are providing a product...period.
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    re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Another ruling that bigotry will no longer be tolerated in America. If this baker is truly concerned about his religious beliefs....perhaps he should start by trying to be more "Christ-like" and try living the principles that Jesus Christ taught.
    This is a ruling which upholds and embraces the very most sinister bigotry of all.

    A person who has moral values is no longer allowed to uphold them, and is forced to submit to forced participation in immorality as a condition of being able to make a living.

    As is often demonstrated, here we see that those who most loudly proclaim their opposition to bigotry are, in fact, usually the very worst bigots of all.
    The five great lies of the Left Wrong:
    We can be Godless and free. • “Social justice” through forced redistribution of wealth. • Silencing religious opinions counts as “diversity”. • Freedom without moral and personal responsibility. • Civilization can survive the intentional undermining of the family.

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    re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    How exactly is baking a cake..."acoomplishing [sic] their continued sinning"....but selling them a loaf of bread is not? How does a wedding cake "accomplish their continued sinning". You are providing a product...period.
    There's a difference between a morality-neutral product, and a product that is created and sold for the express purpose of promoting immorality.
    The five great lies of the Left Wrong:
    We can be Godless and free. • “Social justice” through forced redistribution of wealth. • Silencing religious opinions counts as “diversity”. • Freedom without moral and personal responsibility. • Civilization can survive the intentional undermining of the family.

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    re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    This is a ruling which upholds and embraces the very most sinister bigotry of all.

    A person who has moral values is no longer allowed to uphold them, and is forced to submit to forced participation in immorality as a condition of being able to make a living.

    As is often demonstrated, here we see that those who most loudly proclaim their opposition to bigotry are, in fact, usually the very worst bigots of all.

    Bigoted racists thought they had superior moral values when they refused to serve blacks....was that ok with you. Were they forced to submit to forced participation in immorality as a condition of being able to make a living?
    You sir....have an extreme lack of understanding of bigotry.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    Jesus was a Jew, not a Christian. Jewish law states that you must follow the law of the land with only 2 exceptions. Murder and Adultery.

    Interestingly, over the years, adultery has become no BFD although murder is stil illegal.

    So, Jesus would have said "bake the cake and respect the law of the land".
    Ahhh... but we have first amendment religious freedoms here in this land. And, by the Constitution, there cannot be made laws infringing upon that right. Right?

    Right.
    "...But resist we much, we must and we will much, about that be committed..." --- the right Reverend Alfred Charles "Al" Shaprton, Jr.

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