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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Don't have to. The laws of our country protect our civil rights. Sorry if that bothers you. Get used to it.
    You have no right to another's property or labor. Using the guns of government to make it so is just a form of tyranny.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Of course they shouldn't have to. But life isn't about the should. It's about rights, liberty and freedom. You cannot attack freedom merely because you do not like the results.
    and that is exactly what the court said....thank you.
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    You have no right to another's property or labor. Using the guns of government to make it so is just a form of tyranny.
    OMG...back to the big bad government with their big bad guns paranoia. wow......
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    and that is exactly what the court said.....thank you.
    You have no right to another's property or labor, no matter how much you wish it so. Using the guns of government to make it so is just a form of tyranny. You can't fight tyranny with tyranny, that's a ludicrous proposal.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by dolphinocean View Post
    Please quote me from the Bible regarding your claim.
    Doesn't have to be the Bible:

    “Religious groups distinguish between believers and non-believers and moral people and immoral ones,” Wood said. “So perhaps it’s no surprise that the strongly religious people in our research, who were mostly white Christians, discriminated against others who were different from them — blacks and minorities.” Most of the studies reviewed by Wood’s team focused on Christians because Christianity is the most common religion in the United States. Her analysis found significantly less racism among people without strong religious beliefs. Wood speculated that racist tendencies would not be limited to one religion: “All religions offer a moral group identity, and so across world religions — including Buddhism, Hinduism, Muslim, Judaism and Christianity — the religious ingroup is valued over outgroups.”

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    OMG...back to the big bad government with their big bad guns paranoia. wow......
    All government force is ultimately backed by the gun. As I said before (and as you ignore) don't comply and see what happens. I'll await your answer.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    All government force is ultimately backed by the gun. As I said before (and as you ignore) don't comply and see what happens. I'll await your answer.
    Dude....your paranoia is controlling your life.
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No, government laws protect the rights and liberties of the individual. If you want to push your religious morals, keep them to yourself.
    I am not religious. Government laws protect the rights and liberties of the individual in that they reflect or morals regarding rights and liberties... this is pretty basic.

    Of course they shouldn't have to. But life isn't about the should. It's about rights, liberty and freedom.
    Right... it is about rights, liberty and freedom that they have to not be discriminated against.

    You cannot attack freedom merely because you do not like the results.
    In instances like this not only could we but we should.
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    No.

    The baker is not being discriminated against by having to serve somebody he doesn't religiously think he should. That makes no sense! He IS THE ONE DISCRIMINATING.



    With regards to the photographer I said pictures of lovely heterosexual ladies versus pictures of lovely homosexual ladies... you are saying that the photographer can discriminate, in that instance?
    I see what you mean regarding my take on discriminating the baker's religion, sorry was in hurry trying to do several chores at one time.

    I should say violating his religious belief through the judicial power. I think it's totalitarian tactics for the judicial branch to force a private business owner to cater to an event that runs contra to one's religious principle.

    The baker was NOT discriminating the gay customers. He just just refused to be a part of the event. Event is not a person.

    With regards to female bodies, as a professional photographer or artist I would serve the ladies, gay or straight, no difference. Just no men, gay or straight. Can the court force me to do otherwise?

    I think I need to take a break and get busy with my other chores.

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Dude....your paranoia is controlling your life.
    It's not paranoia, it's a simple fact. Don't comply and see what happens.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
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