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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by dolphinocean View Post
    Nope. The baker would be happy to sell any cakes to anybody gay or straight, just not a gay theme wedding cake which he wanted no part of due to religious ground.
    Its a friggin cake....no one was asking him to attend the wedding....geeeessh!
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    The religion in question is irrelevant. "Religion" is not some umbrella one can hide behind in order to violate a person's rights.

    It is illegal to discriminate against a person's religion, race, gender, colour or sexual orientation. According to you a Muslim baker can refuse to bake a Jew a cake.
    The religion is relevant by the the Constitution of the United States. You stated "It is illegal to discriminate against a person's religion" but then that's precisely what you are doing to the baker based on his religious belief.

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by dolphinocean View Post
    Mind tell me on what legitimate basis the bus driver can request that other than the skin color?
    A lot of people use their religious beliefs that blacks are inferior to whites.....Blacks weren't allowed in a number of churches based on religious superiority beliefs.
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    No. That is a ridiculous and inaccurate statement. Let me ask you:

    If one is for the freedom of speech...even if said freedom allows racist speech...then you are for racist speech. And yet I am willing to make a bet that you would argue you are not for racist speech? Right? Or do you not support the right to free speech?

    You see how your poor logic would work against someone who is actually for freedom? You obviously want more nanny state government to protect someone's feelings. The fact is that...even though this guy is a bigoted scumbag...he should have every right to be a bigoted scumbag. It is his property and his services.
    That doesn't show that I made a ridiculous and inaccurate statement.

    I am for freedom of speech even if it is racist. Saying racist things does not violate anybody's rights. If a black guy wants to say that whites are whatever racist thing he wants, that is fine. What he can't do is talk about harming them, or hate speech. This baker has the right to be the biggest bigoted scumbag on the planet. What he does not have the right to do is to practice that bigotry by denying service to others...

    I don't want any government interaction... but I am a realist and realize that without government interaction we will have rampant racism just like we used to.

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Its a friggin cake....no one was asking him to attend the wedding....geeeessh!
    That's what we're talking about, a friggin cake. Then go to another store and get a generic friggin wedding cakes and stop clogging up the court with frivolous lawsuit already.

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by dolphinocean View Post
    That's what we're talking about, a friggin cake. Then go to another store and get a generic friggin wedding cakes and stop clogging up the court with frivolous lawsuit already.
    Why do you believe that blacks should have to walk down the street to another restaurant, just because some bigot doesn't want to serve them?
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    A lot of people use their religious beliefs that blacks are inferior to whites.....Blacks weren't allowed in a number of churches based on religious superiority beliefs.
    Please quote me from the Bible regarding your claim.

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Its a friggin cake....no one was asking him to attend the wedding....geeeessh!
    It was a friggin cake and nothing more, they could have gone elsewhere to get it.
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by dolphinocean View Post
    The religion is relevant by the the Constitution of the United States. You stated "It is illegal to discriminate against a person's religion" but then that's precisely what you are doing to the baker based on his religious belief.
    No.

    The baker is not being discriminated against by having to serve somebody he doesn't religiously think he should. That makes no sense! He IS THE ONE DISCRIMINATING.

    I said bodies of the beautiful ladies. Other the other side of the coin would be about male bodies. I didn't say anything about genitals so why would you talk about penises?
    With regards to the photographer I said pictures of lovely heterosexual ladies versus pictures of lovely homosexual ladies... you are saying that the photographer can discriminate, in that instance?
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Why do you believe that blacks should have to walk down the street to another restaurant, just because some bigot doesn't want to serve them?
    Like I said, there is no legitimate basis for that. So why are you beating a dead horse?

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