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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by dolphinocean View Post
    FYI, wedding cake isn't an individual or a group, disability, race, creed, color, sex, sexual orientation, marital status, national origin, or ancestry. So, your argument is absurd.

    If a customer walks into a muslim bakery and demand to have a cake frosted with a caricature of the prophet mohammad with a bomb sitting on his head using whatever are in stock, would that be ok for the judge to compel the muslim baker to bake the customer a terrorist depicting mohammad caricature cake?

    And like I said, the ruling cuts both ways.
    Another bad analogy. Now if the gay couple wanted a wedding cake with naked men on it with erect penises....your analogy might fit. But that isn't the case here. Again, nobody was asking the Baker to produce anything other than that which he normally produced in the course of business.
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    And nobody is entitled to what that baker bakes.
    Of course, Ikari...we all know that you believe that the big bad government is going to storm the bakery with their guns drawn and place it to the bakers head....lol.....
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Of course, Ikari...we all know that you believe that the big bad government is going to storm the bakery with their guns drawn and place it to the bakers head....lol.....
    They certainly will fine, jail, arrest, them if they should resist. All government force is ultimately backed by the gun. Try not complying, let me know what happens (of course you won't, because you know what happens, you just don't want to admit what your argument endorses).
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Another bad analogy. Now if the gay couple wanted a wedding cake with naked men on it with erect penises....your analogy might fit. But that isn't the case here. Again, nobody was asking the Baker to produce anything other than that which he normally produced in the course of business.
    It's not bad analogy. If I as a professional or artist wished to take pictures of women's bodies, whether naked or not it is my right to serve only the ladies and not the men gay or straight naked or not.

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Why do you people keep thinking this is some secret catch.

    Private is private, a private business can deny its business to anyone, you have no right to another man's property or labor. Instead of government force, you need to employ intelligent consumerism to elicit the necessary changes in local business.
    Then you think that it is wrong that restaurants have to serve people that they may not want to... likes black people in the South.
    A business owner of a restaurant should be able to discriminate... that is what you are saying?
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Then you think that it is wrong that restaurants have to serve people that they may not want to... likes black people in the South.
    A business owner of a restaurant should be able to discriminate... that is what you are saying?
    It's spelled out for you in that post you quoted. It can be made no clearer than that.
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    No it isn't at all. It would be more akin to a muslim caterer refusing service of a product that he normally produces every day to a non-muslim custom, simply because they aren't muslim. Your analogy is completely off-base. Nobody is asking this baker to bake anything other than that which he normally produces in the course of business.
    Asking a baker to frost an image of mohammed is no difference to asking him to bake an image of Santa Claus or anything. There's no law that says others. You are just being contra.

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by dolphinocean View Post
    No, I did not change the argument. You refused to concede the point.

    Where did I even state about NOT "to serve the ANY FEMALE customer that wants your service of taking or painting portraits of beautiful bodies of gorgeous young ladies be she white, black or lesbian"?

    And where did I state that the muslim baker only baked religious cakes?

    You said, the muslim baker is "required to make one of Mohammed". Do you know what this is going to cause world wide? Isamic bloodbath.
    You didn't make a point since you are setting up terrible, illogical analogies.

    The baker in Colorado baked "Wedding Cakes... not penis's. Your photographer took pictures of "lovely females"... not naked people. The analogy has to be equal on both sides. If the baker bakes wedding cakes he must bake wedding cakes to whomever wants one. If a lesbian wants her picture taken your photographer must take her picture within the same context as the non-lesbian ones. If she wants to be naked the photographer can legally say no, of course.
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by dolphinocean View Post
    Asking a baker to frost an image of mohammed is no difference to asking him to bake an image of Santa Claus or anything. There's no law that says others. You are just being contra.
    You seem to have no concept of what a logical analogy is... no offence intended.
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It's spelled out for you in that post you quoted. It can be made no clearer than that.
    Just trying to be crystal clear... well, then you are 100% wrong. Nothing more to discuss really.

    You are for discrimination.

    That is truly sad to hear.
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