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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Where was the discrimination?
    Now you wanna play obtuse? The discrimination is in the business owner refusing to serve people that they find "icky". Why do you continue to support bigoted white restaurant owners who refuse to serve blacks or bigoted bakers who refuse to serve gays? Why should the blacks or the gay have to go down the street to another restaurant or drinking fountain or bakery simply because some bigot wants to claim "religion" as a shield to follow the law? Bigotry in the name of religion is still bigotry.
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Yes, there many who feel that shouting down any opposition to defend their belief, or attempting to intimidate by schoolyard taunts, is 'progressive, and it seems we have to suffer through them until the education system is overhauled. When it is one of the first few things they should do is teach the students about human rights. Required reading and discussion should be Democracy in America and The Road To Serfdom..

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Yes, there many who feel that shouting down any opposition to defend their belief, or attempting to intimidate by schoolyard taunts, is 'progressive, and it seems we have to suffer through them until the education system is overhauled. When it is one of the first few things they should do is teach the students about human rights. Required reading and discussion should be Democracy in America and The Road To Serfdom..
    Bigotry should ALWAYS be shouted down. There is no room for Bigotry in a civilized society.
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Now you wanna play obtuse? The discrimination is in the business owner refusing to serve people that they find "icky". Why do you continue to support bigoted white restaurant owners who refuse to serve blacks or bigoted bakers who refuse to serve gays? Why should the blacks or the gay have to go down the street to another restaurant or drinking fountain or bakery simply because some bigot wants to claim "religion" as a shield to follow the law? Bigotry in the name of religion is still bigotry.
    What about the discrimination against the man who didn't want to bake the cake because of his religious beliefs? Is his rights lesser than others? Should he be forced to bake a cake because someone demands it?

    Again, you drift away to other areas which have nothing to do with this case. Focus, Man, Focus!!

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Bigotry should ALWAYS be shouted down. There is no room for Bigotry in a civilized society.
    All that's necessary is to call someone a bigot and then shout them down. No debate necessary.

    No wonder Obama raised the age of children to be 26 years old. America is in danger of becoming a nation of shouting, whining adolescents. Instead of shouting, why not try holding your breath until you get your way?

    The flip side of your argument is that everyone would have the same smarts as you.

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    1.)What about the discrimination against the man who didn't want to bake the cake because of his religious beliefs?
    2.) Is his rights lesser than others?
    3.) Should he be forced to bake a cake because someone demands it?

    Again, you drift away to other areas which have nothing to do with this case. Focus, Man, Focus!!
    1.) there is no illegal discrimination against him
    2.) nope they are equal
    3.) nope and this didnt happen here

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) there is no illegal discrimination against him
    2.) nope they are equal
    3.) nope and this didnt happen here

    all your starwmen fail
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Not only are you unfamiliar with the First Amendment, you haven't even read the story on which this debate is based~!!!
    ROFLMAO....seriously, how could you miss this? It's been posted many times. And the judge clearly states where he interprets the discrimination.

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    over 118 pages and nothing has changed lets go over the facts:

    Owner chose to play in the public realm and open a public access business, this requires a licenses and has rules and laws that regulated it
    Owner chose to break the law, commit a crime and make himself a criminal which has consequences


    The judge actually let the criminal off easy,he didn't fine him or anything, he just gave him a cease and desist order.

    So all the owner has to do is stop breaking the law, committing crimes, illegal discriminating and stop infringing on peoples rights, seems easy to me.

    next time this dummy will think twice before breaking the law


    heres some qoutes from the judges 13 page ruling

    “The undisputed facts show that Respondents (Phillips) discriminated against Complainants because of their sexual orientation by refusing to sell them a wedding cake for their same-sex marriage,” Judge Spencer wrote.


    “Conceptually, [Mr. Phillips's] refusal to serve a same-sex couple due to religious objection to same-sex weddings is no different from refusing to serve a biracial couple because of religious objection to biracial marriage,” wrote Judge Spencer.


    The order says the cake-maker must “cease and desist from discriminating against gay couples. Although the judge did not impose fines in this case, the business will face penalties if it continues to turn away gay couples who want to buy cakes.


    “At first blush, it may seem reasonable that a private business should be able to refuse service to anyone it chooses,” Judge Spencer said in his written order. “This view, however, fails to take into account the cost to society and the hurt caused to persons who are denied service simply because of who they are.”



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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Now you wanna play obtuse? The discrimination is in the business owner refusing to serve people that they find "icky". Why do you continue to support bigoted white restaurant owners who refuse to serve blacks or bigoted bakers who refuse to serve gays? Why should the blacks or the gay have to go down the street to another restaurant or drinking fountain or bakery simply because some bigot wants to claim "religion" as a shield to follow the law? Bigotry in the name of religion is still bigotry.
    He has run out of gas on this. He's read and responded to the answer to this more than once. He just wants to get you to jump through hoops....just cut and paste something already here or give him a post number. He's seen it all already.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Not only are you unfamiliar with the First Amendment, you haven't even read the story on which this debate is based~!!!
    Facts through out this thread prove you factually wrong, also FYI, i posted more links to this story and qoutes from them than anybody in this thread lol
    Facts prove your post wrong again
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