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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Yes, you have shown support for a business to discriminate against whomever they want. That is what your comments said. Oh wait, are you saying that businesses have a right to discriminate against gays and not blacks. Wow, you are back peddling there then.
    If you used the quote system properly you wouldn't need to ask what I said. Why not take up your problem with one of the moderators?

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    If the shoe fits. WEAR it. You wear it quite well. Your comments support that a business should be able to discriminate against who they want.
    Do you genuinely understand who is doing the discriminating in this instance?

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Well, my high school girlfriend Debbie Zambrano's family bakery...very Italian Catholic....made lots of barmitzvah cakes and I know plenty of Jewish bakeries back East that made Christmas cakes and fantastic hot-crossed buns for Easter. So...they support those things that a truly devout person would not provide those services to them.

    Most businesses, religious or not, serve people with whom they knowingly object to morally. And in these cases of religious beliefs, it appears they may be 'selective' in when they choose to "play the religious beliefs' card.
    If your friend Debbie found Jews to be immoral you should find new friends.

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    It's kinda proof of how far people have to stretch to justify their position. And Iran is FAR.
    definitely when theres no real argument just make things up
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    If you cannot understand that the U.S. does not tolerate discrimination based on sexuality, race or religion, I cannot help you.

    These are current laws like those that say we cannot employ 5 year olds to work in the factories. Are you also going to demand an answer why we cannot allow 5 year olds to work in factories as well? You're being silly at this point.
    So we've moved from murder to rape to 5-year-olds working in factory. Apparently, in the mind of a leftist, refusing to sell a wedding cake and crimes against juveniles are easily comparable.

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    I never stated that incest or pedophilia led to homosexuality. I stated the same argument using "discrimination" the gays used to further gay marriage would be the same argument those who find incest and pediphilla and polygamy acceptable relations will use to further law changes.
    sorry there is factually no legal or right based precedent in america that is strictly gay rights based that lends itself to pedophilia

    nobody educated believes this

    if you disagree simply give us a factual example that is soley based on equal rights for gays that lends itself to pedophilia. . . .ONE

    you wont be able to
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    For the sake of argument though, had this been an interracial couple and the baker had denied them a wedding cake because he religiously felt that he could not support interracial marriages, would you have supported that as legitimate free exercise of religion?

    Based on your other response, I am guessing that for you, personally, you do not believe sexual orientation should be a protected class like race and that influences how you see this situation. I am wondering if you would respond the same way if it were racial given that people have, in the past, used religious convictions to deny services to people of different racial groups.

    Also, it should be noted since you brought dogs up, that this baker does do wedding cakes for dog weddings.
    What's really the matter with you? Do you not understand this is not about interracial marriage? Why do leftists repeat these senseless analogies over and over again? You must have leftist friends. Are they this way too?

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Gay marriage is no threat to me unless it means my rights are violated in the name of "discrimination". If I find it morally wrong, how dare you force me to bake a cake for the occasion or take pictures or cater the reception or print the invitations? You talk a lot about staying out of people'ss business, then how about staying out of the business of those who do not wish to go against their moral conscience?
    your moral conscience is meaningless to peoples rights and law this fact will never changes, there is no force

    facts defeat your post again

    dont like this don't break the law
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Yes, just like the blacks should have moved to another restaurant that allowed them in right? Or moved to a fountain that allowed blacks or a bus that didn't have them sitting in the back. WOW why didn't someone think of your wonderful solution BACK then as well?
    Do you understand that Blacks were not allowed to be served in those restaurants and they had the force of the law behind them and that this was on fr scores of years?

    Do you also not understand that this Gay couple could have ordered bread, cookies, and any baked goods which were in the store? They had bought baked goods there in the past.He just didn't want to make a wedding cake because he felt it was wrong according to his religion. It is not anything like Black people being refused any kinf of service in all restaurants. This guy just didn't want to make a wedding cake.

    Why not respect this guys religion, as people should, and just go get their cake at another bakery?

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    My explanation is this country doesn't allow discrimination based on sexuality, race or religion. If you can't accept that, Iran is your next best option to move to. They are more to your liking on the right to discriminate. If you cannot see why it is wrong to discriminate, I cannot help you.
    You said it. They can't discriminate against this baker because because of his religion. We are finally making progress!!

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