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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper;1062646087In fact while we were all focused on Iran and the nuclear deal, they passed a law allowing men to marry their 13-year-old adopted daughters
    [url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2442270/Iran-passes-marriage-law-allowing-men-wed-13-year-old-adopted-daughters.html
    Iran passes marriage law allowing men to wed 13-year-old adopted daughters | Mail Online[/url]
    Do a search at Wiki on "incest" to get the lowdown on how many countries have already legalized it.
    O.M.G. Are you actually comparing ANYTHING in a fundamentalist religiously run Muslim nation to ANYTHING in the US?

    And who cares what adults do, incest or not? There's no movement for marriage rights for that and no law in the world will actually stop the relationship. Genetic defects first generation are very rare....they only tend to be amplified over time and inbreeding. There are more chances of genetic defects in couples that have such genes, and KNOW it and still choose to reproduce. They do it all the time and 'take the chance.' There are no laws against it.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    there is no case facts prove its all crap
    It's kinda proof of how far people have to stretch to justify their position. And Iran is FAR.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Wow. Iran. That great bastion of gay rights. They love their gay people so much they hang them up for display.

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    I mean if you truly wanted to make a case that allowing same sex marriage would lead to incest and pedophilia how could you have picked a better case than Iran?

    By the way, 1st cousin marriage is legal in more states in the United States than same sex marriage is and has been for a very, very long time

    State Laws Regarding Marriages Between First Cousins

    But I like you blaming same sex marriage for things that have already happened.
    I never stated that incest or pedophilia led to homosexuality. I stated the same argument using "discrimination" the gays used to further gay marriage would be the same argument those who find incest and pediphilla and polygamy acceptable relations will use to further law changes.

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    O.M.G. Are you actually comparing ANYTHING in a fundamentalist religiously run Muslim nation to ANYTHING in the US?

    And who cares what adults do, incest or not? There's no movement for marriage rights for that and no law in the world will actually stop the relationship. Genetic defects first generation are very rare....they only tend to be amplified over time and inbreeding. There are more chances of genetic defects in couples that have such genes, and KNOW it and still choose to reproduce. They do it all the time and 'take the chance.' There are no laws against it.
    A lot of folks in this country never thought gay marriage was a threat. Others never thought the incest laws would be relaxed. Now that marriage has been redefined, what makes you think this country will not see further changes? Maybe changes you aren't willing to accept?

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    A lot of folks in this country never thought gay marriage was a threat. Others never thought the incest laws would be relaxed. Now that marriage has been redefined, what makes you think this country will not see further changes? Maybe changes you aren't willing to accept?
    I could not care less if adults involved in incest wanted to marry. For the reasons I stated earlier, I see no harm to anyone else. THey would just be 2 people who wanted to marry, who cares? I consider it immoral and wrong however it is not up to me to judge and it affects me NOR society not at all. (I dont believe the govt should be involved in marriage at all but since they are, then it needs to be applied equally).

    Who goes around judging everybody like this? There are alot of people involved in alot of freaky stuff. It doesnt usually affect me and it's none of my business. We live in a country that PROMOTES individual liberty. Stay the heck out of other peoples' business.

    P.S. Please tell me how gay marriage is a threat to you in any way?
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    I never stated that incest or pedophilia led to homosexuality. I stated the same argument using "discrimination" the gays used to further gay marriage would be the same argument those who find incest and pediphilla and polygamy acceptable relations will use to further law changes.
    I myself never saw you consider it a 'slippery slope.' I only saw you compare gay marriage to incest and pedophilia (didnt see polygamy either.)

    The DISTINCTION is that minor incest and pedophilia are ABUSE. Sexual and emotional and USE minors who cannot consent.

    Gay relationships and marriage are about consenting adults in a committed relationship. Do you not see that difference? The US cannot 'allow' marriages that are infringements on the rights of one of the partners.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    I could not care less if adults involved in incest wanted to marry. For the reasons I stated earlier, I see no harm to anyone else. THey would just be 2 people who wanted to marry, who cares? I consider it immoral and wrong however it is not up to me to judge and it affects me NOR society not at all. (I dont believe the govt should be involved in marriage at all but since they are, then it needs to be applied equally).

    Who goes around judging everybody like this? There are alot of people involved in alot of freaky stuff. It doesnt usually affect me and it's none of my business. We live in a country that PROMOTES individual liberty. Stay the heck out of other peoples' business.

    P.S. Please tell me how gay marriage is a threat to you in any way?
    Gay marriage is no threat to me unless it means my rights are violated in the name of "discrimination". If I find it morally wrong, how dare you force me to bake a cake for the occasion or take pictures or cater the reception or print the invitations? You talk a lot about staying out of people'ss business, then how about staying out of the business of those who do not wish to go against their moral conscience?

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    If the shoe fits. WEAR it. You wear it quite well. Your comments support that a business should be able to discriminate against who they want.
    Do you know how the quote system works? I submit a post and you can then comment on it. It really doesn't work if you make stuff up or accuse others of saying things they didn't say. I comment and then you deal with the comment, and not your imagination.

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Gay marriage is no threat to me unless it means my rights are violated in the name of "discrimination". If I find it morally wrong, how dare you force me to bake a cake for the occasion or take pictures or cater the reception or print the invitations? You talk a lot about staying out of people'ss business, then how about staying out of the business of those who do not wish to go against their moral conscience?
    Again, if you felt it was immoral to serve a black person or a Jew,you wouldnt have any standing under the law. Since gays are a protected class as well in that state, you would be subject to that law. Dont like it? Dont have a business where you might have to serve blacks, Jews, or gays.

    Again....gays are who they are, they do not make that choice, and have the same right to pursue happiness as anyone else (in America, not Iran...it's a basic Constitutional right)....so your moral outrage seems hypocritical. You never did answer that question...which I asked you twice.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Look at your own quotes. This is exactly what you are saying...either that...or you are completely inconsistent. You have said numerous times that there is a right to discriminate over and over and over. Read your own posts.
    Who has the right to discriminate? The baker or the Gay couple?

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