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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

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    all factually 100% false
    The politically correct way to tell her that is '100% fact free.'

    Please....make sure you dont morally offend! LOL
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil_Osophy View Post
    Youre explanation us "big daddy govt says so cuz its right"? Got it.
    And your explanation is we can discriminate against who we want, when we want. Sorry, but that isn't the case.

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    And actually I agree with you there, so you agree that there shouldn't be any discrimination based on sexuality right?
    I would be willing to compromise there.

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil_Osophy View Post
    The constitution doesnt guarantee you to be entitled to others property.
    This had nothing to do with property, it had to do with services.

    Your right to "free exercise" of religion ends when it interferes with the rights of others. Court precedent allows a state to limit your "free exercise" of religion in the interest of a "compelling state interest" such as nondiscrimination as long as it isn't too burdensome. The debate here is the extent to which people have "free exercise" of their religious liberty and whether the state is imposing too much of a burden on this baker by trying to push its interest of nondiscrimination.
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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Being gay isnt about sexual activity. A person is gay whether or not they ever have sex. It is about the gender that they are attracted to, fall in love with, want to be intimate with.

    Gays wouldnt want to get married if it was just about sex....how many married couples continue to have lots of sex? Relationships are much more than that.
    WTF does this have to do with someone's constitutional rights? I don't give a damn what gay people do in their bedroom, or how they are attracted to one another. What I do find appalling is those who are gay and those who support them will violate the rights of others because of their moral conscience will haul them into court and sue them because they refused to bake them a damn wedding cake when there are several bakeries in the area that would have obliged them. This whole thing stinks because those gays who are demanding rights are willing to trample the rights of others just to make an f-ing statement to force their relationships down the throats of those who morally find them wrong. Can you feel the f-ing love?????

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    This had nothing to do with property, it had to do with services.

    Your right to "free exercise" of religion ends when it interferes with the rights of others. Court precedent allows a state to limit your "free exercise" of religion in the interest of a "compelling state interest" such as nondiscrimination as long as it isn't too burdensome. The debate here is the extent to which people have "free exercise" of their religious liberty and whether the state is imposing too much of a burden on this baker by trying to push its interest of nondiscrimination.
    The constitution doesnt guarantee you to be entitled to the services of private businesses.

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil_Osophy View Post
    I would be willing to compromise there.
    Ok so good, I'll continue to fight for gun rights and you continue to fight for gay rights. Good to know.

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    And your explanation is we can discriminate against who we want, when we want. Sorry, but that isn't the case.
    I explained the reason as well. Because you arent entitled to other peoples businesses or property and nobody is forced to patronize a business. You have nothing to say contrary other than "big daddy govt doesnt think so, and big daddy is right".

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:123]

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    Re: Colorado Judge: Bakery Owner discriminated against gay couple [W:113:123:292:647

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You nailed it, Vesper, and please understand that you are not alone in recognizing this movement. Millions of people everywhere are waking up to this craziness, and should before all personal freedoms disappear. The Founders recognized this potential for evil, designing the Constitution accordingly while George Orwell, as usual, summed it up nicely.
    If the personal freedoms (and I say 'if) were lost, they were not lost because gays have been considered a protected class in some states. They are not 'the cause.' The 'cause' was the fight for civil rights for women and then blacks and that led to the development of the anti-discrimination laws and policies we have today. The gays are not 'to blame' for that. Every American has the right to fight for their civil rights. That does not mean every 'group' of Americans is justified.

    Of course, many people were offended by the idea of women and blacks getting their civil rights recognized as well. I look back on those people as historical dinosaurs, ignorant and intolerant. I am saddened by the knowlege that future generations will look back at this time period and think the same of us. It's embarrassing.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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