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Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

Today is Dec. 7th. Is the American flag flying outside of your house in recognition of the bombing of Pearl Harbor ?

You don't have to answerer the question publicly, just answer it for your self.

36 USC § 129 - National Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day

(a) Designation.— December 7 is National Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day.
(b) Proclamation.— The President is requested to issue each year a proclamation calling on—
(1) the people of the United States to observe National Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day with appropriate ceremonies and activities; and
(2) all departments, agencies, and instrumentalities of the United States Government, and interested organizations, groups, and individuals, to fly the flag of the United States at halfstaff each December 7 in honor of the individuals who died as a result of their service at Pearl Harbor.


The bigger question is, did President Obama carry out his duties as POTUS and issued that proclamation that is required under the law or was Obama again derelict in his duties as President ?

I fly the American flag every day.:doh
 
It isn't just 'liberals and progressives' most of us defend Nelson Mandela and his legacy..

Go back and read again what I said. Starting in the 1980's liberals/progressives in the world started whitewashing Mandelas violent pass. You know the left is known to do things like that, it's called revisionism.

How much do you really know about Nelson and Winnie Mandela and the ANC ? Maybe I should've asked you first, how old were you in 1980 ?
 
Go back and read again what I said. Starting in the 1980's liberals/progressives in the world started whitewashing Mandelas violent pass. You know the left is known to do things like that, it's called revisionism.

How much do you really know about Nelson and Winnie Mandela and the ANC ? Maybe I should've asked you first, how old were you in 1980 ?

I wasn't born in 1980. You don't need to have been living then to know what was going on or to know the history of the ANC and the numerous associated militant groups that operated in South Africa in the wider region. As for 'white washing' Mandela there was nothing to white wash. He was a saboteur, a political opponent, and a communist sympathizer.
 
Yahoo! News

President Barack Obama on Thursday ordered flags to fly at half-staff at the White House and public buildings, with the US in mourning over the death of "close friend" and anti-apartheid hero Nelson Mandela.

Obama's proclamation, which also extended to the White House, US foreign missions, military posts, naval stations and military vessels, was valid through sunset on Monday.

"Today, the United States has lost a close friend, South Africa has lost an incomparable liberator, and the world has lost an inspiration for freedom, justice, and human dignity -- Nelson Mandela is no longer with us, he belongs to the ages," he said in the document.

"Through his fierce dignity and unbending will to sacrifice his own freedom for the freedom of others, he transformed South Africa -- and moved the entire world.


For a Communist? Antithesis to Freedom and Liberty?

And nothing for Maggie Thatcher...nothing

I truly want to vomit.

So go vomit! You have no idea what this man accomplished!
 
Forgive me but which ones say "I am a member of the Communist Party" or words to that effect?

The first quote may be true - but it's a general truism that any political movement seeking self aggrandisement will ally itself with a short term political struggle. Our BNP (British National Party) allies itself with any populist cause every other day in the hope it will gain votes - but it's not Mandela saying "I am a communist."

Quote 2 - Socialism is not the same as communism. Some say it's a halfway house and others disagree - but it's still not him saying "I am a communist."

Quote 3 - is not Mandela saying "I am a Communist."

Please try again.

Just admit he was a Commie and get over it. You are way too invested in trying to proving he wasn't.
 
I know but if you ready the OP it says they were close friends or Mandela was close friends of the US, which of course he was not.[/QUOTE

He's hero for the Left because he's a Commie. They just don't want to blow their cover. 8)
 
I wasn't born in 1980. You don't need to have been living then to know what was going on or to know the history of the ANC and the numerous associated militant groups that operated in South Africa in the wider region. As for 'white washing' Mandela there was nothing to white wash. He was a saboteur, a political opponent, and a communist sympathizer.

Also a traitor to his country and a terrorist.

I think those twenty seven years in prison caused Nelson Mandela to open his eyes and publicly abandon violence. But did he reject consequentialisms entirely ? The end justifies the means ? Consequences for whom ?
 
Just admit he was a Commie and get over it. You are way too invested in trying to proving he wasn't.

Old Fidel is getting old and when he goes on to that journey to Hell, your going to have the same people on the DP claiming all the good Fidel did for Cuba and the world and they will deny that Fidel was a commie.

Come to think of it, it was Fidel who helped arm the ANC.
 
Old Fidel is getting old and when he goes on to that journey to Hell, your going to have the same people on the DP claiming all the good Fidel did for Cuba and the world and they will deny that Fidel was a commie.

Come to think of it, it was Fidel who helped arm the ANC.

Least there are a few here on DP that aren't afraid to admit their ideology. The rest are ******s.
 
His accomplishment were strictly regional. Not like he helped end the cold war or anything.

The NAC and Nelson Mandela were part of the Cold War. They just happened to be on the Soviet Union's side.

What was really behind ending apartheid in South Africa was the coming of the end of the Cold War.
 
Care to list them ?

And don't say he caused "Goodyear Tires" stocks to sky rocket.

Brother, if you don't already know, any explanation from me, now, will just be a waste of both of our time.
 
The NAC and Nelson Mandela were part of the Cold War. They just happened to be on the Soviet Union's side.

What was really behind ending apartheid in South Africa was the coming of the end of the Cold War.

Judging by your posts, we're still fighting the Cold War with the amount of constant red-baiting you do.
 
The NAC and Nelson Mandela were part of the Cold War. They just happened to be on the Soviet Union's side.

What was really behind ending apartheid in South Africa was the coming of the end of the Cold War.

With the efforts of leaders like Maggie Thatcher.
 
Also a traitor to his country and a terrorist.

I think those twenty seven years in prison caused Nelson Mandela to open his eyes and publicly abandon violence. But did he reject consequentialisms entirely ? The end justifies the means ? Consequences for whom ?

A traitor to his country? How is he a traitor to his country? Of course he was a militant, possibly even a terrorist at one point--most of us don't care. He was fighting a racist and fascistic government with all the means at his disposal. Of course I endorse consequentialism in that fight. Just as I'd endorse it for the Jews against the Nazis, the Ukranians against the Soviets, etc.
 
With the efforts of leaders like Maggie Thatcher.

She did play a significant part in influencing President De Klerk and bringing an end to apartheid.

Nelson Mandela couldn't do much sitting behind bars except wishing that he wasn't a commie but a capitalist and had stocks in Goodyear and Firestone.

I wonder if there are any of these pro Mandela supporters on the DP who want to explain how the Mandela family became multi-millionaires after Nelson Mandela became President ?
 
She did play a significant part in influencing President De Klerk and bringing an end to apartheid.

Nelson Mandela couldn't do much sitting behind bars except wishing that he wasn't a commie but a capitalist and had stocks in Goodyear and Firestone.

I wonder if there are any of these pro Mandela supporters on the DP who want to explain how the Mandela family became multi-millionaires after Nelson Mandela became President ?

The Bush family made deals with Nazi Germany if you wonder how they became rich.
 
I wonder if there are any of these pro Mandela supporters on the DP who want to explain how the Mandela family became multi-millionaires after Nelson Mandela became President ?

He wrote a very well-received book, for starters.
 
A traitor to his country? How is he a traitor to his country? Of course he was a militant, possibly even a terrorist at one point--most of us don't care. He was fighting a racist and fascistic government with all the means at his disposal. Of course I endorse consequential ism in that fight. Just as I'd endorse it for the Jews against the Nazis, the Ukranians against the Soviets, etc.

Nelson Mandela went to prison after police conducting a search warrant found the NAC war plans for overthrowing the South African government.

That's usually what most communist revolutions are all about, over throwing a ligament government by the use of violence.

Look at the "New Left" agenda before 1973 in America. Causing an uprising on the streets of America to over throw the U.S. government.

The National African Council declared war against the South African government and used terrorism as a tactic mostly murdering mostly black innocent civilians. Basically black on black crime.

How many of you commie sympathizers on the DP who know who the Zulu's are ? The Zulu's seem to have opposed the terrorist tactics of the ANC. The Zulu's are the true indigenous Africans of South Africa. True warriors.
 
Keep digging.

Give you a hint, think of South Africa's natural resources.

His estimated net worth in 2013 was $1.5 million. That's not exorbitantly high, although he did give a lot of money away.

Nelson Mandela Net Worth - TheRichest

Apparently his kids are pretty involved in a lot of South African business. But since you're so smart, why don't you tell us your theory, rather than have us do your homework for you.
 
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