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Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

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President Barack Obama on Thursday ordered flags to fly at half-staff at the White House and public buildings, with the US in mourning over the death of "close friend" and anti-apartheid hero Nelson Mandela.

Obama's proclamation, which also extended to the White House, US foreign missions, military posts, naval stations and military vessels, was valid through sunset on Monday.

"Today, the United States has lost a close friend, South Africa has lost an incomparable liberator, and the world has lost an inspiration for freedom, justice, and human dignity -- Nelson Mandela is no longer with us, he belongs to the ages," he said in the document.

"Through his fierce dignity and unbending will to sacrifice his own freedom for the freedom of others, he transformed South Africa -- and moved the entire world.


For a Communist? Antithesis to Freedom and Liberty?

And nothing for Maggie Thatcher...nothing

I truly want to vomit.
 
He freed millions of people from Apartheid rule and gave them freedom, past connections is his youth mean nothing. When he was president of South Africa he was definitely not communist. Do you not like Blacks having rights and democracy? Margaret Thatcher never really accomplished anything of note especially on the world stage besides being friends with Reagan.
 
Jetboogieman, where are you..
As I predicted, a combo thread on Obama and Mandela with plenty of vile hatred for all this Christmas seaqson .
 
Title 4 United States Code:
§ 7. Position and Manner of Display.
(m) The flag, when flown at half-staff, should be first hoisted to the peak for an instant and then lowered to the half-staff position. The flag should be again raised to the peak before it is lowered for the day. On Memorial Day, the flag should be displayed at half-staff until noon only, then raised to the top of the staff. By order of the President, the flag shall be flown at half-staff upon the death of principal figures of the United States Government and the Governor of a state, territory, or possession, as a mark of respect to their memory. In the event of the death of other officials or foreign dignitaries, the flag is to be displayed at half-staff according to Presidential instructions or orders, or in accordance with recognized customs or practices not inconsistent with law.
 
Winter came with snow and I've taken my flag down. Otherwise it would remain at full staff. For Americans, I just don't see the worship factor here.
 
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Not surprising coming from a fellow Marxist. 8)

What happened to the Kennedy doctrine or the Truman doctrine? Our military swore to fight these bastards not honor them.

BTW: all the Leftist responses totally expected.
 
Title 4 United States Code:
§ 7. Position and Manner of Display.
(m) The flag, when flown at half-staff, should be first hoisted to the peak for an instant and then lowered to the half-staff position. The flag should be again raised to the peak before it is lowered for the day. On Memorial Day, the flag should be displayed at half-staff until noon only, then raised to the top of the staff. By order of the President, the flag shall be flown at half-staff upon the death of principal figures of the United States Government and the Governor of a state, territory, or possession, as a mark of respect to their memory. In the event of the death of other officials or foreign dignitaries, the flag is to be displayed at half-staff according to Presidential instructions or orders, or in accordance with recognized customs or practices not inconsistent with law.

One point of the OP is not entirely who did get this treatment. Obviously it is a subjective decision and I have no objection to this one, but I do question whether political ideology is the driving factor for who is not considered worthy of this honor.
 
One point of the OP is not entirely who did get this treatment. Obviously it is a subjective decision and I have no objection to this one, but I do question whether political ideology is the driving factor for who is not considered worthy of this honor.

Political ideology is the driving factor behind many if not most decisions coming from this White House.

As for recognizing Mandela? I agree with it completely.

As for why others haven't been given the same recognition? Well... we already answered that.
 
Communists.... He was one.

Politician....was one.

Encouraged foreign capitalist investment, talked in-depth to the American financial giants and said "invest in us."

Perhaps you have forgotten, or perhaps you wish to promote anti-Americanism.
 
Communists.... He was one.

And what communist principles did he pursue when he became president, hmm?

Did he nationalize the gold mines? No. Did he nationalize the banks? No. He ignored many of the tenets of the original ANC charter, instead opting for promoting foreign investment.

He could've committed horrible revenge on whites, but he didn't. His past political affiliation does not diminish the good he did.
 
Nelson Mandela? Are you ****ign kidding me?

Some of the conservatives in this country are putting a nice-sized object up the anus. Luckily, the idiots don't have power to speak of, otherwise they would have decreased the influence of the U.S.
 
Some of the conservatives in this country are putting a nice-sized object up the anus. Luckily, the idiots don't have power to speak of, otherwise they would have decreased the influence of the U.S.

Nothing on earth could have decreased the influence of the US more than the election of the Liberal messiah.
 
He freed millions of people from Apartheid rule and gave them freedom, past connections is his youth mean nothing. When he was president of South Africa he was definitely not communist. Do you not like Blacks having rights and democracy? Margaret Thatcher never really accomplished anything of note especially on the world stage besides being friends with Reagan.

Apartheid rule ended before Mandela was released from Prison. It was South Africa's F.W. de Klerk who ended apartheid in South Africa.

Margaret Thatcher played a significat role with winning the Cold War and also led Great Britain to war against Argentina that resulted in a dictator losing his power.

As for President Obama ignoring the U.S. flag protocol and ordering the American flag to be flown at half mast for ten days, (No American soldier, Marine, sailor or airman received such honor and recognition for giving his life to country. Ten days !!!)

Just more evidence that Obama doesn't look at himself as an American but as an internationalist socialist, honoring another internationalist socialist / terrorist.
 
Apartheid rule ended before Mandela was released from Prison. It was South Africa's F.W. de Klerk who ended apartheid in South Africa.

Margaret Thatcher played a significat role with winning the Cold War and also led Great Britain to war against Argentina that resulted in a dictator losing his power.

As for President Obama ignoring the U.S. flag protocol and ordering the American flag to be flown at half mast for ten days, (No American soldier, Marine, sailor or airman received such honor and recognition for giving his life to country. Ten days !!!)

Just more evidence that Obama doesn't look at himself as an American but as an internationalist socialist, honoring another internationalist socialist / terrorist.

Well Mandala was a terrorist to the Apartheid regime does that make him a terrorist, no. If you want to follow that reasoning all the founding fathers of America were traitors and terrorists. It was Mandela's movement and leadership which caused Apartheid to end, De Klerk negotiated and signed it into law. Thatcher accomplished nothing that can rival freeing and entire race of people that inspired the world.
 
Well Mandala was a terrorist to the Apartheid regime doesn't make him a terrorist, no. If you wnat to follow that reasoning all the founding fathers of America were traitors and terrorists.

A terrorist attacks civilian targets. That's what he did and orchestrated. The founding fathers actually built an army and fought them toe to toe. Now blowing up buses in crowded streets. Mandela himself was actually glad he went in because he'd rather of done that, then participate in that violent solution. It's the same reason that Malcom X isn't seen in the same light as MLK. One took the road, and the other sought to combat violence with violence.
 
A terrorist attacks civilian targets. That's what he did and orchestrated. The founding fathers actually built an army and fought them toe to toe. Now blowing up buses in crowded streets. Mandela himself was actually glad he went in because he'd rather of done that, then participate in that violent solution. It's the same reason that Malcom X isn't seen in the same light as MLK. One took the road, and the other sought to combat violence with violence.

The ANC did not attack civilian targets they attacked infrastructure when Mandela was in control. The Founding Fathers also killed loyalists, innocent loyalists even after the revolution ended. Ever hear of tar and feathering.
 
The ANC did not attack civilian targets they attacked infrastructure when Mandela was in control. The Founding Fathers also killed loyalists, innocent loyalists even after the revolution ended. Ever hear of tar and feathering.

The Sons of Liberty of yore? Why, they would never. It was all Johnny Tremain and ****.:lol:
 
The ANC did not attack civilian targets they attacked infrastructure when Mandela was in control. The Founding Fathers also killed loyalists, innocent loyalists even after the revolution ended. Ever hear of tar and feathering.

Yeah, George Washington didn't order tar and feathering of loyalist. However, Mandela did order bombing attacks.

I'm not trying to denegrate him, nay, I'm actually so moved by the truth. Think about it, in a country where we are so divided, that we have become so bitter to one another, here is a man who was once a man of militatism that thought violence was the only way. If he had continued down that path, South Africa would of ended up like Zimbabwe. Instead, he can out a humble... a great man of peace and reconciliation. He was in fact the perfect bridge between war to peace.
 
Yeah, George Washington didn't order tar and feathering of loyalist. However, Mandela did order bombing attacks.

I'm not trying to denegrate him, nay, I'm actually so moved by the truth. Think about it, in a country where we are so divided, that we have become so bitter to one another, here is a man who was once a man of militatism that thought violence was the only way. If he had continued down that path, South Africa would of ended up like Zimbabwe. Instead, he can out a humble... a great man of peace and reconciliation. He was in fact the perfect bridge between war to peace.

He ordered the bombing of infrastructure like power pylons not of human targets. George Washington did exactly nothing to stop them at all.
 
This thread is getting a little far afield.

My guess is that none of the Liberals on here fly American flags at all so they really have no say in what the rest of us do.
 
Yahoo! News

President Barack Obama on Thursday ordered flags to fly at half-staff at the White House and public buildings, with the US in mourning over the death of "close friend" and anti-apartheid hero Nelson Mandela.

Obama's proclamation, which also extended to the White House, US foreign missions, military posts, naval stations and military vessels, was valid through sunset on Monday.

"Today, the United States has lost a close friend, South Africa has lost an incomparable liberator, and the world has lost an inspiration for freedom, justice, and human dignity -- Nelson Mandela is no longer with us, he belongs to the ages," he said in the document.

"Through his fierce dignity and unbending will to sacrifice his own freedom for the freedom of others, he transformed South Africa -- and moved the entire world.


For a Communist? Antithesis to Freedom and Liberty?

And nothing for Maggie Thatcher...nothing

I truly want to vomit.




How many people did Maggie Thatcher free from apartheid?
 
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