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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Yes, but he's not an American or connected at all with America. So how are you okay with flying our flag at half mast for him. I get that you respect the man.
    There is precedent for flying the flag at half-staff for foreign leaders and dignitaries. The last was Pope John Paul II in 2005.
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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    There is precedent for flying the flag at half-staff for foreign leaders and dignitaries. The last was Pope John Paul II in 2005.
    Was Lady Thatcher not a worthy dignitary?
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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    There is pretty solid speculation those are extremely ginned-up charges.
    You might want to try reading the court transcripts. Mandela aknowledged the bombings but denied any bombings of individual homes. That the bombings of homes were done by his fellow communist terrorist on their own.

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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    There is precedent for flying the flag at half-staff for foreign leaders and dignitaries. The last was Pope John Paul II in 2005.
    There are a huge number of Catholics in America, so there is an American connection at least. However, we should not have done that either. The POTUS can kiss my ass with his little nod to Mandela.

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    In the United States, the President can issue an executive order for the flag of the United States to be flown at half-staff upon the death of principal figures of the United States government, and others, as a mark of respect to their memory. When such an order is issued, all government buildings, offices, public schools and military bases are to fly their flags at half-staff. Under federal law (4 U.S.C. § 7(f)), the flags of states, cities, localities, and pennants of societies, shall never be placed above the flag of the United States; thus, all other flags also fly at half-staff when the U.S. flag has been ordered to fly at half-staff. It is important to note that there is no penalty for failure to comply with the above law as to enforce such a law would violate the First Amendment.

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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    President Barack Obama on Thursday ordered flags to fly at half-staff at the White House and public buildings, with the US in mourning over the death of "close friend" and anti-apartheid hero Nelson Mandela.
    It seems to me that a more fitting tribute to Mr. Mandela would be a stack of gasoline-soaked tires around each flagpole, set on fire.
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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Did you miss this post or just choose to ignore it?

    Nelson Rolihlahla Mandela (18 July 1918 - 5 December 2013) was a communist terrorist leader and former President of South Africa. He was imprisoned for some time for attempting to plant a bomb in a shopping center with the intent of killing men, women and children. He signed off on the Church Street bombing in 1983 which killed 19 people and maimed another 217."

    Nelson Mandela - Metapedia
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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    You believe metapedia for what reason? He would also have been arrested for charges he didn't afrter all it was Apartheid South Africa the justice system was not exactly fair.
    He himself admits he was responsible for many bombings in his own book. How's that for a source?

    "In his book "Long Walk to Freedom", Nelson Mandela wrote that as a leading member of the ANC’s executive committee, he had “personally signed off” in approving these acts of terrorism,"

    Remembering The Church Street Bombing-Pretoria

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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    He himself admits he was responsible for many bombings in his own book. How's that for a source?

    "In his book "Long Walk to Freedom", Nelson Mandela wrote that as a leading member of the ANC’s executive committee, he had “personally signed off” in approving these acts of terrorism,"

    Remembering The Church Street Bombing-Pretoria
    Mandela had nothing to do with that, he was in ****ing prison. Tell me when you find actual non-biased sources that is not far-right propaganda.

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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Apartheid rule ended before Mandela was released from Prison. It was South Africa's F.W. de Klerk who ended apartheid in South Africa.

    Margaret Thatcher played a significat role with winning the Cold War and also led Great Britain to war against Argentina that resulted in a dictator losing his power.

    As for President Obama ignoring the U.S. flag protocol and ordering the American flag to be flown at half mast for ten days, (No American soldier, Marine, sailor or airman received such honor and recognition for giving his life to country. Ten days !!!)

    Just more evidence that Obama doesn't look at himself as an American but as an internationalist socialist, honoring another internationalist socialist / terrorist.
    But Mandela was a close friend of Obama.

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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    “Communists everywhere fight to destroy capitalist society and to replace it with Socialism, where the masses of the common people, irrespective of race or colour, will live in complete equality, freedom and happiness. They seek to revolutionise society and are thus called revolutionaries. Those who support capitalism with its class divisions and other evils and who oppose our just struggles to end oppression are called counter revolutionaries.” ~ Nelson Mandela

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    MANDELA THE MYTH

    “No matter how many speeches are given or how many news articles are written, it is safe to bet that the full truth about Mandela will not be told except by those who know and care about history being recorded factually.

    “In fact the truth about Mandela is so hidden in mythology and misinformation that most know nothing about him prior to Robben island, and those who do tend to exercise a form of self censorship, designed to bolster the myth whilst consigning uncomfortable facts into the mists of history.

    “For most people all they know about Mandela, prior to his release in 1990, was that he had spent 27 years in prison and was considered by many on the left at the time (and almost everyone now) to be a political prisoner. However, Mandela was no Burmese Aung San Suu Kyi, he was not an innocent, democratically elected leader, imprisoned by an authoritarian government.

    “Mandela was the terrorist leader of a violent terrorist organisation, the ANC (African National Congress) which was responsible for many thousands of, mostly black, deaths. The ANC’s blood spattered history is frequently ignored, but reminders occasionally pop up in the most embarrassing places, indeed as recently as this month the names of Nelson Mandela and most of the ANC remained on the US government’s terrorist watch list along with al-Qaeda, Hezbollah and the Tamil Tigers. Of course the forces of political correctness are rushing to amend that embarrassing reminder from the past. However, Mandela’s name was not on that list by mistake, he was there because of his murderous past.”

    Nelson Mandela: The Man and the Myth | A. J. MacDonald, Jr.

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