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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    My guess would be "nothing."
    What in your opinion are the big differences between Castro and Mandela. Honest question, I am not baiting you.

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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    What in your opinion are the big differences between Castro and Mandela. Honest question, I am not baiting you.
    Castro was an antagonist of the U.S. during the Cold War, who actively enacted Communist policies in Cuba. Mandela was neither, and Mandela played a significant role in ending Apartheid. There.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    He ordered the bombing of infrastructure like power pylons not of human targets. George Washington did exactly nothing to stop them at all.
    For your reading pleasure, maybe you will learn something.

    "Nelson Rolihlahla Mandela (18 July 1918 - 5 December 2013) was a communist terrorist leader and former President of South Africa. He was imprisoned for some time for attempting to plant a bomb in a shopping center with the intent of killing men, women and children. He signed off on the Church Street bombing in 1983 which killed 19 people and maimed another 217."

    Nelson Mandela - Metapedia

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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Castro was an antagonist of the U.S. during the Cold War, who actively enacted Communist policies in Cuba. Mandela was neither, and Mandela played a significant role in ending Apartheid. There.
    His so called roll in ending apartheid was to kill innocent women and children. There. How do you defend that?

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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    My guess would be "nothing."
    In 2008 after the uninformed and misinformed elected Obama as President, Fidel Castro wrote, "The intelligent and noble face of the first black president of the United States since its founding two and one-third centuries ago as an independent republic had transformed itself under the inspiration of Abraham Lincoln and Martin Luther King into a living symbol of the American dream."

    In 2013 Castro wrote, Obama Is "Stupid"

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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    In 2008 after the uninformed and misinformed elected Obama as President, Fidel Castro wrote, "The intelligent and noble face of the first black president of the United States since its founding two and one-third centuries ago as an independent republic had transformed itself under the inspiration of Abraham Lincoln and Martin Luther King into a living symbol of the American dream."

    In 2013 Castro wrote, Obama Is "Stupid"
    In 2013, Kobie wrote, "Who gives a **** what Fidel Castro thinks?"
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    He freed millions of people from Apartheid rule and gave them freedom, past connections is his youth mean nothing. When he was president of South Africa he was definitely not communist. Do you not like Blacks having rights and democracy? Margaret Thatcher never really accomplished anything of note especially on the world stage besides being friends with Reagan.
    Umm.. he didn't free millions. It takes two to tango. de Klerk opposed Apartheid as well. It was de Klerk's Government approached Mandela about legalizing the ANC and releasing Mandela and how to do it. Then de Klerk turned around campaigned for lifting Apartheid in the South African vote. de Klerk didn't bitch and moan when he lost to Mandela in 1994 and faithfully served as deputy president under Mandela.

    Mandela didn't win the Nobel Peace Prize by himself.. he won it with de Klerk.
    Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office. H.L Mencken

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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    His so called roll in ending apartheid was to kill innocent women and children. There. How do you defend that?
    He killed innocent women and children from prison? Interesting.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Castro was an antagonist of the U.S. during the Cold War, who actively enacted Communist policies in Cuba. Mandela was neither, and Mandela played a significant role in ending Apartheid. There.
    Can you document on how Mandela played a significant role in ending apartheid in SA while sitting in prison for over two decades ?

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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    Umm.. he didn't free millions. It takes two to tango. de Klerk opposed Apartheid as well. It was de Klerk's Government approached Mandela about legalizing the ANC and releasing Mandela and how to do it. Then de Klerk turned around campaigned for lifting Apartheid in the South African vote. de Klerk didn't bitch and moan when he lost to Mandela in 1994 and faithfully served as deputy president under Mandela.

    Mandela didn't win the Nobel Peace Prize by himself.. he won it with de Klerk.
    I agree that de Klerk deserves a lot of the credit for the end of the Apartheid era and the smooth, relatively non-violent transition that ensued.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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