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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Apartheid rule ended before Mandela was released from Prison. It was South Africa's F.W. de Klerk who ended apartheid in South Africa.

    Margaret Thatcher played a significat role with winning the Cold War and also led Great Britain to war against Argentina that resulted in a dictator losing his power.

    As for President Obama ignoring the U.S. flag protocol and ordering the American flag to be flown at half mast for ten days, (No American soldier, Marine, sailor or airman received such honor and recognition for giving his life to country. Ten days !!!)

    Just more evidence that Obama doesn't look at himself as an American but as an internationalist socialist, honoring another internationalist socialist / terrorist.
    It's just pandering on his part, and we're used to that!. If memory serves me correctly, when Michelle made her African trip, it was Mandela she ended up visiting, since the leader of South Africa refused to meet with her because he didn't agree with Barack's international policies. I'm glad she had the opportunity to meet Mandela in person.

    Greetings, APACHERAT!

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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    The ANC did not attack civilian targets they attacked infrastructure when Mandela was in control. The Founding Fathers also killed loyalists, innocent loyalists even after the revolution ended. Ever hear of tar and feathering.
    The Founding Fathers didn't kill loyalists! Where do you come up with this stuff?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    David Duke isn't a member of the Ku Klux Klowns anymore, either. I bet you still think he's a racist.
    So you're saying that he didn't change? People can change ap, that's the wonderful part of the story. In fact, find a picture of him scowling, or angry in public after he came out. And so what if he actually believed it. Actions speak louder than words, and his actions showed a man of peace, not militarism.

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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    So you're saying that he didn't change? People can change ap, that's the wonderful part of the story. In fact, find a picture of him scowling, or angry in public after he came out. And so what if he actually believed it. Actions speak louder than words, and his actions showed a man of peace, not militarism.
    Obviously not, since 60,000 people have been murdered in South Africa since 1994.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Obviously not, since 60,000 people have been murdered in South Africa since 1994.
    Are you saying Mandela is responsible for that? That he wanted 60,000 people to be murdered, and insinuating as such?

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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    Yet they still sided with us during the revolution and the War of 1812. We have officially apologized for residential schools and maltreatment of natives. America is guilty of the same.
    The point is, come down off your high horse cause you don't have the moral ground to stand on.
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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    It's just pandering on his part, and we're used to that!. If memory serves me correctly, when Michelle made her African trip, it was Mandela she ended up visiting, since the leader of South Africa refused to meet with her because he didn't agree with Barack's international policies. I'm glad she had the opportunity to meet Mandela in person.

    Greetings, APACHERAT!
    Something to do with throwing Qaddafi under the bus I suppose.

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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Founding Fathers didn't kill loyalists! Where do you come up with this stuff?
    I don't know about all that stuff but I would bet a dollar to a doughnut that many Brits felt the same way about George Washington, back during our American revolution, as many Americans do about Mandela, today.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending Mandela, I'm just drawing parallels to put things in perspective.

    But I, for one, will NOT be lowering my flag.

    It's GREAT to be me. --- "45% liberal/55% conservative"
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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    It will be interesting to see what Obama does if Castro dies on his watch.
    My guess would be "nothing."
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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Something to do with throwing Qaddafi under the bus I suppose.
    Who knows? I gave up trying to make sense of what goes on in politics!

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