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IMV, our Flag should not be lowered to half staff in deference to any foreign dignitary...
Why not.
IMV, our Flag should not be lowered to half staff in deference to any foreign dignitary...
The only reason to fly a flag at half staff is if that person freed people from Apartheid?
Is that in the law somewhere?
The movement that required de Klerk to release Mandela in the first place to stop the protests and rebellion was the ANC and Mandela. He wouldn't have done it if everything was still peaceful in South Africa, or if he did much more slowly.
I don't know about all that stuff but I would bet a dollar to a doughnut that many Brits felt the same way about George Washington, back during our American revolution, as many Americans do about Mandela, today.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending Mandela, I'm just drawing parallels to put things in perspective.
But I, for one, will NOT be lowering my flag.
Why not.
The better question would be why...
Are you saying Mandela is responsible for that? That he wanted 60,000 people to be murdered, and insinuating as such?
Nice dodge.
The difference between a terrorist and a freedom fighter has nothing to do with ideology, but about methods and ethics—particularly the treatment of noncombatants and the observance of established rules of warfare.
If you cannot see the difference between the great men who founded this nation, and the movement with which Mandela was associated, with regard to these parameters, then that's your deficiency. Mandela's movement may have been for a good cause, but its methods and ethics were those of terrorists and murderers, not of legitimate freedom fighters.
ANC and the IFP (Inkatha Freedom Party) were killing each other off during the late 1980s. There was no pressure from the movement. They were fighting each other. Both almost sank the ending of Apartheid due to the Boipatong massacre.
Maybe you should learn some history on what really went down in South Africa.
The Founding Fathers also killed loyalists, innocent loyalists even after the revolution ended. Ever hear of tar and feathering.
But Mandela was a close friend of Obama.
How many people did Maggie Thatcher free from apartheid?
Yahoo! News
President Barack Obama on Thursday ordered flags to fly at half-staff at the White House and public buildings, with the US in mourning over the death of "close friend" and anti-apartheid hero Nelson Mandela.
Obama's proclamation, which also extended to the White House, US foreign missions, military posts, naval stations and military vessels, was valid through sunset on Monday.
"Today, the United States has lost a close friend, South Africa has lost an incomparable liberator, and the world has lost an inspiration for freedom, justice, and human dignity -- Nelson Mandela is no longer with us, he belongs to the ages," he said in the document.
"Through his fierce dignity and unbending will to sacrifice his own freedom for the freedom of others, he transformed South Africa -- and moved the entire world.
For a Communist? Antithesis to Freedom and Liberty?
And nothing for Maggie Thatcher...nothing
I truly want to vomit.
Not only have I heard of tarring and feathering, but unlike you, it seems; I even know enough about the practice to understand what it entails, and what the intended and likely results are of this practice.
Not that I know of, but I guess that it's one reason.
What do you think?
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This is almost pitiful, really.
Obama was close friends of the racist Reverend Wright, and the terrorist Bill Ayers.
The difference between a terrorist and a freedom fighter has nothing to do with ideology, but about methods and ethics—particularly the treatment of noncombatants and the observance of established rules of warfare.
If you cannot see the difference between the great men who founded this nation, and the movement with which Mandela was associated, with regard to these parameters, then that's your deficiency. Mandela's movement may have been for a good cause, but its methods and ethics were those of terrorists and murderers, not of legitimate freedom fighters.
The founding fathers were slavers
and did nothing to free slaves
or protect loyalists
you can add aboriginals in there to.
How many people were burned to death in gasoline-soaked tires at her behest?
You asked how many people Thatcher had freed from Apartheid.Were you suggesting she was not worthy because she had nothing to do with apartheid?