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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    The NAC and Nelson Mandela were part of the Cold War. They just happened to be on the Soviet Union's side.

    What was really behind ending apartheid in South Africa was the coming of the end of the Cold War.
    Judging by your posts, we're still fighting the Cold War with the amount of constant red-baiting you do.
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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    The NAC and Nelson Mandela were part of the Cold War. They just happened to be on the Soviet Union's side.

    What was really behind ending apartheid in South Africa was the coming of the end of the Cold War.
    With the efforts of leaders like Maggie Thatcher.

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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Also a traitor to his country and a terrorist.

    I think those twenty seven years in prison caused Nelson Mandela to open his eyes and publicly abandon violence. But did he reject consequentialisms entirely ? The end justifies the means ? Consequences for whom ?
    A traitor to his country? How is he a traitor to his country? Of course he was a militant, possibly even a terrorist at one point--most of us don't care. He was fighting a racist and fascistic government with all the means at his disposal. Of course I endorse consequentialism in that fight. Just as I'd endorse it for the Jews against the Nazis, the Ukranians against the Soviets, etc.

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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    With the efforts of leaders like Maggie Thatcher.
    She did play a significant part in influencing President De Klerk and bringing an end to apartheid.

    Nelson Mandela couldn't do much sitting behind bars except wishing that he wasn't a commie but a capitalist and had stocks in Goodyear and Firestone.

    I wonder if there are any of these pro Mandela supporters on the DP who want to explain how the Mandela family became multi-millionaires after Nelson Mandela became President ?

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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    She did play a significant part in influencing President De Klerk and bringing an end to apartheid.

    Nelson Mandela couldn't do much sitting behind bars except wishing that he wasn't a commie but a capitalist and had stocks in Goodyear and Firestone.

    I wonder if there are any of these pro Mandela supporters on the DP who want to explain how the Mandela family became multi-millionaires after Nelson Mandela became President ?
    The Bush family made deals with Nazi Germany if you wonder how they became rich.

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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    I wonder if there are any of these pro Mandela supporters on the DP who want to explain how the Mandela family became multi-millionaires after Nelson Mandela became President ?
    He wrote a very well-received book, for starters.
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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    A traitor to his country? How is he a traitor to his country? Of course he was a militant, possibly even a terrorist at one point--most of us don't care. He was fighting a racist and fascistic government with all the means at his disposal. Of course I endorse consequential ism in that fight. Just as I'd endorse it for the Jews against the Nazis, the Ukranians against the Soviets, etc.
    Nelson Mandela went to prison after police conducting a search warrant found the NAC war plans for overthrowing the South African government.

    That's usually what most communist revolutions are all about, over throwing a ligament government by the use of violence.

    Look at the "New Left" agenda before 1973 in America. Causing an uprising on the streets of America to over throw the U.S. government.

    The National African Council declared war against the South African government and used terrorism as a tactic mostly murdering mostly black innocent civilians. Basically black on black crime.

    How many of you commie sympathizers on the DP who know who the Zulu's are ? The Zulu's seem to have opposed the terrorist tactics of the ANC. The Zulu's are the true indigenous Africans of South Africa. True warriors.

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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    He wrote a very well-received book, for starters.
    Keep digging.

    Give you a hint, think of South Africa's natural resources.

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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Keep digging.

    Give you a hint, think of South Africa's natural resources.
    His estimated net worth in 2013 was $1.5 million. That's not exorbitantly high, although he did give a lot of money away.

    Nelson Mandela Net Worth - TheRichest

    Apparently his kids are pretty involved in a lot of South African business. But since you're so smart, why don't you tell us your theory, rather than have us do your homework for you.
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