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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Before 1939 Hitler was considered a great man.

    Read the cover story of Times magazine "1933 Man of the Year."

    But I digress.

    The liberals and progressives in the world started white washing Nelson Mandela's violent pass and his suport of terrorism starting back in the 1980's. But it's kind of hard scrubbing everything from the newspapers and news magazines before Mandela became President of S.A.

    Do your own search. A lot of Mandela quotes were not his. He even deffended his X-wife, Winnie Mandela and his political party's (ANC) necklace parties.

    From Time magazine Dec. 17, 1990.

    >"Aware of Winnie Mandela's erratic behavior in recent years, many South Africans were guessing that the once-divorced Nelson might give his wife the shove following his release from prison. Not so. With Winnie facing trial in February on kidnapping and assault charges, Nelson is now springing to her defense."<


    Time magazine Aug. 6 1990

    >" Thought communism was dead? Not in South Africa, where the party is unashamedly resurrecting itself -- to the evident horror of President F.W. de Klerk. Last week the government arrested at least seven party activists, charging them with plotting to stage an armed insurrection by the African National Congress if negotiations to draft a new nonracial constitution fail..."<
    It isn't just 'liberals and progressives' most of us defend Nelson Mandela and his legacy. It isn't 'conservative' to be in that incredibly tiny minority. It's just wrong. People are willing to excuse and avoid passing censure on the activities of South African militant groups because of the struggle they were engaged in and the enemy they fought.

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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Today is Dec. 7th. Is the American flag flying outside of your house in recognition of the bombing of Pearl Harbor ?

    You don't have to answerer the question publicly, just answer it for your self.

    36 USC § 129 - National Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day

    (a) Designation.— December 7 is National Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day.
    (b) Proclamation.— The President is requested to issue each year a proclamation calling on—
    (1) the people of the United States to observe National Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day with appropriate ceremonies and activities; and
    (2) all departments, agencies, and instrumentalities of the United States Government, and interested organizations, groups, and individuals, to fly the flag of the United States at halfstaff each December 7 in honor of the individuals who died as a result of their service at Pearl Harbor.


    The bigger question is, did President Obama carry out his duties as POTUS and issued that proclamation that is required under the law or was Obama again derelict in his duties as President ?
    Presidential Proclamation -- National Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day, 2013 | The White House

    I don't know why I bothered responding to your wholly irrelevant post.
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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    I beleive Nelson Mandela is deserving of the honor of flying the flag at half mast. He was a great man who did great things for his country. We need more world leaders like him.
    "The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice"---Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Before 1939 Hitler was considered a great man.

    Read the cover story of Times magazine "1933 Man of the Year."

    But I digress.

    The liberals and progressives in the world started white washing Nelson Mandela's violent pass and his suport of terrorism starting back in the 1980's. But it's kind of hard scrubbing everything from the newspapers and news magazines before Mandela became President of S.A.

    Do your own search. A lot of Mandela quotes were not his. He even deffended his X-wife, Winnie Mandela and his political party's (ANC) necklace parties.

    From Time magazine Dec. 17, 1990.

    >"Aware of Winnie Mandela's erratic behavior in recent years, many South Africans were guessing that the once-divorced Nelson might give his wife the shove following his release from prison. Not so. With Winnie facing trial in February on kidnapping and assault charges, Nelson is now springing to her defense."<


    Time magazine Aug. 6 1990

    >" Thought communism was dead? Not in South Africa, where the party is unashamedly resurrecting itself -- to the evident horror of President F.W. de Klerk. Last week the government arrested at least seven party activists, charging them with plotting to stage an armed insurrection by the African National Congress if negotiations to draft a new nonracial constitution fail..."<
    Hitler didn't voluntarily give up power or forgive anyone that wronged him. This is the wrong guy to rail against, dude. Sometimes you just have to recognize the nobility in a person you disagree with on some issue.
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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by Amanda1858 View Post
    I beleive Nelson Mandela is deserving of the honor of flying the flag at half mast. He was a great man who did great things for his country. We need more world leaders like him.
    He did great things for the world.
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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Today is Dec. 7th. Is the American flag flying outside of your house in recognition of the bombing of Pearl Harbor ?

    You don't have to answerer the question publicly, just answer it for your self.

    36 USC § 129 - National Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day

    (a) Designation.— December 7 is National Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day.
    (b) Proclamation.— The President is requested to issue each year a proclamation calling on—
    (1) the people of the United States to observe National Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day with appropriate ceremonies and activities; and
    (2) all departments, agencies, and instrumentalities of the United States Government, and interested organizations, groups, and individuals, to fly the flag of the United States at halfstaff each December 7 in honor of the individuals who died as a result of their service at Pearl Harbor.


    The bigger question is, did President Obama carry out his duties as POTUS and issued that proclamation that is required under the law or was Obama again derelict in his duties as President ?
    I fly the American flag every day.
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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    He did great things for the world.
    Yes, he did. I stand corrected. Thank you.
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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    It isn't just 'liberals and progressives' most of us defend Nelson Mandela and his legacy..
    Go back and read again what I said. Starting in the 1980's liberals/progressives in the world started whitewashing Mandelas violent pass. You know the left is known to do things like that, it's called revisionism.

    How much do you really know about Nelson and Winnie Mandela and the ANC ? Maybe I should've asked you first, how old were you in 1980 ?

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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    He did great things for the world.
    Care to list them ?

    And don't say he caused "Goodyear Tires" stocks to sky rocket.

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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Go back and read again what I said. Starting in the 1980's liberals/progressives in the world started whitewashing Mandelas violent pass. You know the left is known to do things like that, it's called revisionism.

    How much do you really know about Nelson and Winnie Mandela and the ANC ? Maybe I should've asked you first, how old were you in 1980 ?
    I wasn't born in 1980. You don't need to have been living then to know what was going on or to know the history of the ANC and the numerous associated militant groups that operated in South Africa in the wider region. As for 'white washing' Mandela there was nothing to white wash. He was a saboteur, a political opponent, and a communist sympathizer.

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