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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

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    Antithesis to Freedom and Liberty?
    Yeah! Apartheid wasn't so bad.

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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    The ANC did not attack civilian targets they attacked infrastructure when Mandela was in control. The Founding Fathers also killed loyalists, innocent loyalists even after the revolution ended. Ever hear of tar and feathering.
    Yeah, George Washington didn't order tar and feathering of loyalist. However, Mandela did order bombing attacks.

    I'm not trying to denegrate him, nay, I'm actually so moved by the truth. Think about it, in a country where we are so divided, that we have become so bitter to one another, here is a man who was once a man of militatism that thought violence was the only way. If he had continued down that path, South Africa would of ended up like Zimbabwe. Instead, he can out a humble... a great man of peace and reconciliation. He was in fact the perfect bridge between war to peace.

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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    Yeah, George Washington didn't order tar and feathering of loyalist. However, Mandela did order bombing attacks.

    I'm not trying to denegrate him, nay, I'm actually so moved by the truth. Think about it, in a country where we are so divided, that we have become so bitter to one another, here is a man who was once a man of militatism that thought violence was the only way. If he had continued down that path, South Africa would of ended up like Zimbabwe. Instead, he can out a humble... a great man of peace and reconciliation. He was in fact the perfect bridge between war to peace.
    He ordered the bombing of infrastructure like power pylons not of human targets. George Washington did exactly nothing to stop them at all.

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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    This thread is getting a little far afield.

    My guess is that none of the Liberals on here fly American flags at all so they really have no say in what the rest of us do.

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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Yahoo! News

    President Barack Obama on Thursday ordered flags to fly at half-staff at the White House and public buildings, with the US in mourning over the death of "close friend" and anti-apartheid hero Nelson Mandela.

    Obama's proclamation, which also extended to the White House, US foreign missions, military posts, naval stations and military vessels, was valid through sunset on Monday.

    "Today, the United States has lost a close friend, South Africa has lost an incomparable liberator, and the world has lost an inspiration for freedom, justice, and human dignity -- Nelson Mandela is no longer with us, he belongs to the ages," he said in the document.

    "Through his fierce dignity and unbending will to sacrifice his own freedom for the freedom of others, he transformed South Africa -- and moved the entire world.


    For a Communist? Antithesis to Freedom and Liberty?

    And nothing for Maggie Thatcher...nothing


    I truly want to vomit.



    How many people did Maggie Thatcher free from apartheid?

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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    This thread is getting a little far afield.

    My guess is that none of the Liberals on here fly American flags at all so they really have no say in what the rest of us do.
    Why would I fly an American flag? It isn't about your flag pole either.

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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    How many people did Maggie Thatcher free from apartheid?
    Probably a negative number.

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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    He ordered the bombing of infrastructure like power pylons not of human targets. George Washington did exactly nothing to stop them at all.


    You people and your "George Washington was a terrorist" inanity. It wasn't his responsibility to "stop them," nor did he have the authority to do so. (And besides, how do you know he never personally tried to intervene?)

    George Washington also preached and practiced conciliation toward all in the new nation. He did not condone or encourage any such things as hangings or tarring/featherings.

    If you want to argue that Mandela wasn't a terrorist, then do it. But all of this bringing up of the "Founding Fathers" is just rank ignorance and stupidity. No, a rebel is not automatically a "terrorist."
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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    He ordered the bombing of infrastructure like power pylons not of human targets. George Washington did exactly nothing to stop them at all.
    Not even going to comment on why this makes him a greater man are you?

    Let me ask you this, would you of preferred the militant man who went into prison, leading a bloody revolution/civil war? Or the peaceful reconciliation that happened? Before he went in, he thought violence was the only way. And after being put in a situation that would of made a lesser man bitter and hard, he came out and became the man South Africa, nay the world, needed.

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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    He freed millions of people from Apartheid rule and gave them freedom, past connections is his youth mean nothing. When he was president of South Africa he was definitely not communist. Do you not like Blacks having rights and democracy? Margaret Thatcher never really accomplished anything of note especially on the world stage besides being friends with Reagan.
    Dude, are you serious? It's called protocol for heads of state, don't you know that much? It's not about picking your buddies. Get a clue.
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