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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    ANC and the IFP (Inkatha Freedom Party) were killing each other off during the late 1980s. There was no pressure from the movement. They were fighting each other. Both almost sank the ending of Apartheid due to the Boipatong massacre.

    Maybe you should learn some history on what really went down in South Africa.
    They were fighting each other and violence was taking place all over the country, the country was a war zone. Not to mention by the 80s the rest of the world had joined in.

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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Nelson Mandela isn't being remembered for his leftist politics, his association with less than tasteful Marxist guerrilla groups, or anything of the sort. He is remembered because of his powerful metamorphosis into a man of peace who steadfastly refused to give up hope and abandoned the path of the sword. When Mandela took power he instituted no retribution, no collectivization, no expropriation, almost nothing. This was no mean feat and it was a feat only he could have performed as his personage kept more aggressive elements of the African freedom movement at bay. Mandela deserves enormous credit for the largely peaceful transition to democracy that South Africa underwent and for staving off the kind of punitive recrimination that could have destroyed the country. He did all this despite being entombed in prison for decades as a prisoner of a racist state.

    He would be remembered positively by many had he 'merely' been a fighter against the apartheid regime, leftist or not, in the same way that we don't cast aspersions on Jewish socialists who fought the Nazis. What makes him legendary is that he abandoned the sword and utterly embraced reconciliation as the only path forward for his country.

    Rabid ideologically driven opposition to Mandela because he held less than savory political views or his association with leftist guerrilla groups is embarrassing.

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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    The Founding Fathers also killed loyalists, innocent loyalists even after the revolution ended. Ever hear of tar and feathering.
    Not only have I heard of tarring and feathering, but unlike you, it seems; I even know enough about the practice to understand what it entails, and what the intended and likely results are of this practice.
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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    But Mandela was a close friend of Obama.
    Obama was close friends of the racist Reverend Wright, and the terrorist Bill Ayers.

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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    How many people did Maggie Thatcher free from apartheid?
    How many people were burned to death in gasoline-soaked tires at her behest?
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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Yahoo! News

    President Barack Obama on Thursday ordered flags to fly at half-staff at the White House and public buildings, with the US in mourning over the death of "close friend" and anti-apartheid hero Nelson Mandela.

    Obama's proclamation, which also extended to the White House, US foreign missions, military posts, naval stations and military vessels, was valid through sunset on Monday.

    "Today, the United States has lost a close friend, South Africa has lost an incomparable liberator, and the world has lost an inspiration for freedom, justice, and human dignity -- Nelson Mandela is no longer with us, he belongs to the ages," he said in the document.

    "Through his fierce dignity and unbending will to sacrifice his own freedom for the freedom of others, he transformed South Africa -- and moved the entire world.


    For a Communist? Antithesis to Freedom and Liberty?

    And nothing for Maggie Thatcher...nothing

    I truly want to vomit.
    To quote Jack Nicholson "I'd rather stick needles in my eyes."

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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Not only have I heard of tarring and feathering, but unlike you, it seems; I even know enough about the practice to understand what it entails, and what the intended and likely results are of this practice.
    So torture basically.

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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Not that I know of, but I guess that it's one reason.




    What do you think?
    You asked how many people Thatcher had freed from Apartheid. Were you suggesting she was not worthy because she had nothing to do with apartheid?

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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Your attacking the messenger. The article provides links to the sources.

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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Obama was close friends of the racist Reverend Wright, and the terrorist Bill Ayers.
    Well we will see if they die if he lowers the flags to half mast.

    I don't see how Obama could have been close friends with a man that probably couldn't have cared less who he was but whatever.

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