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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    IMV, our Flag should not be lowered to half staff in deference to any foreign dignitary...
    Why not.
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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    The only reason to fly a flag at half staff is if that person freed people from Apartheid?


    Is that in the law somewhere?


    Not that I know of, but I guess that it's one reason.




    What do you think?

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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    The movement that required de Klerk to release Mandela in the first place to stop the protests and rebellion was the ANC and Mandela. He wouldn't have done it if everything was still peaceful in South Africa, or if he did much more slowly.
    ANC and the IFP (Inkatha Freedom Party) were killing each other off during the late 1980s. There was no pressure from the movement. They were fighting each other. Both almost sank the ending of Apartheid due to the Boipatong massacre.

    Maybe you should learn some history on what really went down in South Africa.
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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I don't know about all that stuff but I would bet a dollar to a doughnut that many Brits felt the same way about George Washington, back during our American revolution, as many Americans do about Mandela, today.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending Mandela, I'm just drawing parallels to put things in perspective.

    But I, for one, will NOT be lowering my flag.
    I'm sure, just like there were people who thought George III was the cat's meow.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Why not.
    The better question would be why...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    The better question would be why...
    Nice dodge.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    Are you saying Mandela is responsible for that? That he wanted 60,000 people to be murdered, and insinuating as such?
    He got the ball rolling. I haven!t seen him speak out against it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Nice dodge.
    Not a dodge at all, as I have already stated that our flag should not be flown at half staff for any foreign dignitary, but you have not discussed it should...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    The difference between a terrorist and a freedom fighter has nothing to do with ideology, but about methods and ethics—particularly the treatment of noncombatants and the observance of established rules of warfare.

    If you cannot see the difference between the great men who founded this nation, and the movement with which Mandela was associated, with regard to these parameters, then that's your deficiency. Mandela's movement may have been for a good cause, but its methods and ethics were those of terrorists and murderers, not of legitimate freedom fighters.
    Mandela himself did no such thing and what he did was revolutionary. Mandela did not bomb civilian targets the movement got out of control once he was imprisoned. The founding fathers were slavers and did nothing to free slaves or protect loyalists, you can add aboriginals in there to.

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    re: Obama: Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff In Honor Of Nelson Mandela [W:382]

    QUOTE=Bob Blaylock;1062632060]It seems to me that a more fitting tribute to Mr. Mandela would be a stack of gasoline-soaked tires around each flagpole, set on fire.[/QUOTE]

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